Robinson Genealogy

Nadene Goldfoot                                                                   

"Situated on Lake Champlain with the beautiful backdrop of the Green Mountains, the University of Vermont boasts a beautiful campus partnered with the amazing city of Burlington, Vt." Pictured here is "Old Mill and Williams hall sit on the center of Campus at the University of Vermont. The university sits on top of the hill, with the city of Burlington just blocks down the street.

 How confused I've been.  My maternal grandfather had a fairly rare Y haplogroup of  R-L21, and we had one match from Maine.  My grandfather and his father, Abiathar Smith Robinson, were from Vermont.   The other Robinson's tree led to Rockingham, New Hampshire and then Meppershall, England.  That's how I remember people; the farthest the line has gone that I have found. and the matching  Y haplogroup.

Yet our DNA did not have a match; even on FTDNA of 1cMs.  I did have matches that led the line to Scotland.  I've found about 2 main people, ladies connected to Robinson somehow.

Just now I've found a Wallace Fullham Robinson b: 1832 in South Reading, Windsor, Vermont
who married another Robinson from another line.  BOTH LINES WERE FROM SOUTH READING, WINDSOR, VERMONT.

ABIATHAR SMITH ROBINSON HAD MARRIED JULIA ANN TULLER, BORN IN ROYALTON, WINDSOR, VERMONT.  They married next door in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont on February 29, 1852, a LEAP YEAR. 
                                     

On a photo tour of West Windsor and Pomfret, Vermont

1  Wallace Fulham Robinson b: December 21, 1832 in South Reading, Windsor, Vermont d: February 16, 1920 in Boston, Suffolk,  Massachusetts
.. +Mary Jane "Jennie" Robinson b: August 20, 1838 in Reading, Windsor, Vermont d: May 22, 1910 in Boston, Suffolk,  Massachusetts
. 2  Fred Wallace Robinson b: September 10, 1859 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts
. 2  Harry Ezra Robinson b: October 17, 1872 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts d: in Boston, Suffolk,  Massachusetts

                                                                   
Wallace's father was: Descendants of Marvin Robinson
                               
1  [1] Marvin Robinson b: March 24, 1800 in South Reading, Windsor, Vermont d: December 22, 1866 in South Reading, Windsor, Vermont
.. +Lucinda Fulham Fullam b: September 13, 1797 in Fitchburg, Worcester, Massachusetts/ Ludlow, Vermont d: November 25, 1839 in South Reading, Windsor, Vermont
*2nd Wife of [1] Marvin Robinson:
.. +Charlotte W. Unknown b: 1814 in prob. South Reading, Windsor, Vermont d: 1889 in South Reading, Windsor, Vermont

Nadene Goldfoot                                       
                                                                                 

TUNBRIDGE, ORANGE, VERMONT Farming was the occupation of men in those days

Our ggrandfather, Abiathar Smith Robinson b: 1829, is not to be found anywhere to show who his parents were.  It's as if he dropped out of the sky.

Orange, Vermont holds many of the towns that people moved around often.

Towns in Orange County:

Bradford Braintree Brookfield Chelsea Corinth

Fairlee Newbury Orange Randolph

Strafford Thetford Topsham Tunbridge

Vershire Washington West Fairlee Williamstown

                                                                     
                                                                                 
Ancestry might have added more information since I last had used it in my Robinson searches, but it dawned on me that his father may have been from Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont because he and Julia Ann Tuller married there instead of Royalton, Vermont which is almost next door.  Tunbridge is full of Julia's relatives as well;  Tullers and her mother's people.  The map shows that Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont and Royalton, Windsor, Vermont are right across from each other.

The only clue I've had to work with is that our cousin, Ken Robinson, took FTDNA's DNA tests, and his Y haplogroup is R-L21.  Two other men match him and they are of the line that goes back to Meppershall, England which is through Rockingham, New Hampshire.

As you will see, James already has a child born in 1829, so Abiathar is out of place here, but that doesn't rule out some attachment, as a cousin.  I'll look into that possibility of perhaps his father had died and he knew James as a place to stay with temporarily that didn't show up on a census. 

Descendants of JAMES ROBINSON

1  JAMES ROBINSON b: Bet. June 16, 1800 - 1801 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont d: October 29, 1878 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
.. +Mary Bicknell b: Bet. December 06, 1802 - 1803 in Chelsea, Orange, Vermont d: October 09, 1867 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont m: January 03, 1825
. 2  Mary Ann Robinson b: August 24, 1825 in Vermont d: February 09, 1894 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
. 2  Martha T. Robinson b: September 23, 1827 in Vermont d: April 05, 1874 in prob. Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
..... +Chas H. Perkins b: Abt. 1825
. 2  Charles Kent Robinson b: April 19, 1829 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont d: Aft. 1900 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
. 2  [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 1829 in New York/  Tunbridge, Orange/ Jamaica, Windham, Vermont d: October 07, 1904 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
..... +Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: December 02, 1887 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois m: February 29, 1852 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont by justice of the peace Alva Button
. *2nd Wife of [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson:
..... +Mary Jane Deffenbaugh Walters b: November 27, 1832 in Hocking County, Ohio d: July 05, 1918 in Streator, LaSalle, Illinois, age 85 m: 1896 in prob. Wenona, Illinois
. 2  James Trip Robinson b: April 06, 1831 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont d: July 03, 1897 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
. 2  Alma Robinson b: November 04, 1833 in Vermont d: April 06, 1902 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
..... +Seth Noyes b: 1822 d: 1899 m: April 09, 1862
. 2  Susan Robinson b: October 01, 1835 in Bradford,  Orange, Vermont d: February 03, 1900 in Leominster, Massachusetts
..... +James Miller b: Abt. 1830 d: Bef. 1900
. 2  Mary Anne Robinson b: 1825 in Vermont
. 2  Martha T. Robinson b: 1828 in Vermont
. 2  Alma Robinson b: 1834 in Vermont
                                                                           
James Robinson , born June 16, 1800 in Strafford, Orange,  Vermont, was living in Tunbridge in 1860 and 1870.  He died there on October 29, 1878.  Being there were other Robinsons there, too, I figure that the odds were pretty good that James was related to Abiathar, either as his father or perhaps an uncle or even a cousin.  Mary Bicknell: December 6, 1802 in Chelsea, Orange, Vermont,  was his wife.  She died in Tunbridge, too.
                                                                   
James's father was David Robinson born in 1775 in Meredith, Belknap, New Hampshire.  He died in West Fairlee, Orange, Vermont.   His wife was listed as Marth Gripp, but it could have also been Tripp as the cursive letter looked more like a T than a G to me.  Sometimes you wonder about these translators.  T was turning out to be a popular initial in this group of people, too.  There was a Tripp or Trip  in my name bank already. 

David, and I must say that I had zillions of David Robinsons in my name bank making this very difficult, had parents named Chase Robinson and Priscilla Pratt.  Now this is leading to the DNA Y haplogroup match of James Robinson  that my cousin Kenneth has who has traced his line to the same people.  This line will go to Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire.
                                                                     

Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire today

David's parents were Jonathan Robinson and  Mary Mercy Chase in Exeter and Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire.

Jonathan's parents were John III Robinson and Mehitable Stanyan, still in Exeter, New Hampshire.

John's parents were Jonathan  Robinson and  Sarah Scribner in Haverhill and Exeter, New Hampshire. John was born in 1645.

Jonathan's parents were John Robinson Sr. and  Elizabeth Trickley.  John sailed from Meppershall, Bedfordshire, England and died in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire on September 10, 1675
Considering that the Mayflower had sailed in 1620, that isn't much after the following armada of ships that returned to Massachusetts in 1630.  Our oral history had said that our ancestors came over on a ship after the Mayflower.                         
                                                                         
                                                                   
   Abiathar's Y haplogroup is found by his great grandson, Ken Robinson and is R-L21.  It was originally labeled as R1b1a2a1a1b4. So it was an R1b and the origin seems to be the British Isles with the 393 allele being a 12 and not a 13 which shows a more Irish origin. 
Getting back to Ken's Y haplogroup and match with James and Richard  Robinson, it is R-L21.
Richard is R-M269 and James is R-FGC5511.  All come from R1b1a2 before updating and being given new tags.   There are only 3 people with this haplogroup bearing the surname of Robinson.

Richard Robinson at 24 generations ago would have a 99.67% chance of sharing a common ancestor.
James Robinson at 24 generations ago would have a 99.92 % chance of sharing a common ancestor.

It is so difficult to follow Robinsons from one generation to another.  One must use the census carefully as there are common first names used by everyone.  Any information before the 1850 census is iffy.  Family trees help if they relied on actual family records recorded in their bibles or something similar.  That's what I used to get started, my grandmother's Swedish Bible with a family tree recorded.  I've used ancestry.com for all my searches and the LDS website, Family Search, occasionally.




Resource: http://wwwrobinsongenealogy.blogspot.com/2014/11/john-robinson-born-1611-in-meppershall.html
http://wwwrobinsongenealogy.blogspot.com/2015/11/connecting-to-king-james-ii-and-his.html
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_the_British_Isles
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people
http://wwwrobinsongenealogy.blogspot.com/2012/01/famous-people-on-our-robinson-tree.html
https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=8841494#editor/target=post;postID=8221628733317689106;onPublishedMenu=allposts;onClosedMenu=allposts;postNum=67;src=postname
http://wwwrobinsongenealogy.blogspot.com/2011/07/matching-house-of-stuart-royalty.html


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Nadene Goldfoot

Abiathar Smith Robinson's parents are found Abiathar was born in 1829 in Vermont or maybe even New York but  married in 1852 in Tunbridge, Vermont to a Royalton, Vermont lady, Julia Ann Tuller.  Abiathar's father evidently was a James Robinson b: January 24, 1777 in Deerfield, Rockingham, New Hampshire.  He died in Mt. Vernon, Kennebec, Maine on March 26, 1857.  It was around then that Abiathar and Julia had moved to Canada, for 3 of their children were born there.  Now, counting myself as the 1st generation, have gone back 10 generations to John Robinson b: 1611 and Elizabeth Pemberton of Meppershall, England.     Abiathar's great great grandson, Ken, took a DNA test and found his Y haplogroup (male line) was R-L21 with a rare DYS of 12, not the usual 13.  He had one other match that had also tested with 67 alleles that was the same as he was.  It was another Robinson with a history of New Hampshire and Maine.  I had his tree.  The problem was that I knew we connected in our families, but how to figure who the connecting person was.  I finally used dates and took an educated guess, creating another set of parents for Abiathar from this tree.  That's all I had; a guess.   This time while working on a Robinson-Wilson genealogy search, I accidentally connected with a supposed brother from this guess to the Maine Robinson tree.  I had the probable father already from the Maine tree without a wife, and found him and his wife on a burial reference with his wife bearing the surname of the middle name of Abiathar's supposed brother.  I had Abiathar and this supposed brother attached to the wrong father and quickly adjusted it to the information on the burial reference! It's easy to do on my software. The burial reference listed both parents and gave the birth town of each.  It coincided with the Maine-Robinson tree!   I had done it so many times before for poor Abiathar.  I had created 15 different sets of parents for him thinking each one was correct.    I hit paydirt this time.  It all matches the DNA evidence of belonging to the Maine Robinson line that leads to  John Robinson of Meppershall, England, the tree of our Robinson DNA match.                                                                        Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs 1 34,033,535 47,454,604 15.3 3,046 2 8,674 8,693,553 19.7 2,715 2 121,630,925 137,946,311 17.9 3,476  Example of a few of Ken and myself segment matches of chromosomes #1, #2 and another in #2. The disappointing factor is that my cousin Ken and James A Robinson of the original Meppershall tree, though matching in the Y haplogroup, do not match each other in shared DNA segments.  They are too far apart to be related to each other via DNA.  My brother and I do not have a match with him, either.  That doesn't mean that another of Ken's siblings wouldn't have a match if they were tested, though, but it's improbable.   There is one more match to us and it also happens to be an  R. A Robinson whose Y haplogroup is R-M269, the same tag we had had in the beginning of Ken's test.  He is also using the Meppershall tree.  We have some matching people from this tree.  Again, he is not a match to Ken with any chromosomal segments.  Both men, JAR and RAR, have a distance of 5, which means the common ancestor  at 12 generations ago for JAR was 90.99% sure and for RAR was 80.16% sure. Twenty-five years is usually considered a generation.  The connection thus goes back about 300 years to 1717.                                                                             On is Meppershall tree, this can take me back to Captain James Robinson born in 1711 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire and his wife, Mary Gilman.  On the Reverend Robinson tree with Israel Robinson of Kattelville, New York, I have Abiathar being the brother of  Ebenezer Ganong Robinson, an ancestor of one of our lady matches, another DNA piece of evidence.  Around 1717, this could go back to either Peter Robinson, Sr, or his son born in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts Bay.  You see, all roads to our early ancestors lead first to Massachusetts in this exodus from England to America.   One problem I have is that my father was Jewish, and Robinson is also a surname used by many Jewish people.  We have a few other Robinson matches but are of the Jewish line, so this is something I have to check out first.  Which side of the family matches these Robinsons?                                                                              Two ladies who are a match to my Robinson cousin and my brother and myself do not have Robinson surnames.  They match with Robinsons from New York and Vermont only.  Their Robinson line leads to Reverend John Robinson who told the Pilgrims to board the Mayflower.  This causes me to think that the DNA- Y haplogroup clue is the wrong one.  Whoever connected to this NH-Maine line?  I must have every Robinson of New England ever born on my tree?  It's hard to think I've missed a few. Descendants of JOHN ROBINSON, Sr. 1  [1] JOHN ROBINSON, Sr. b: February 09, 1611/12 in Meppershall, Bedfordshire, England d: September 10, 1675 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire .. +Elizabeth Trickley b: 1623 in Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts d: December 24, 1715 in Hampton, Rockingham, New Hampshire *2nd Wife of [1] JOHN ROBINSON, Sr.: .. +Elizabeth PEMBERTON b: Abt. 1623 in Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts d: December 24, 1715 in Hampton, Rockingham, New Hampshire                                             Maine Winter                                                                                                                                                          The only disappointment is that there still remains the fact of not having any paper evidence of his birth to any parents.  He had been born in December 1829.  It could have had something to do with it.

I have been searching for years for the clinching evidence of who Abiathar Smith Robinson b: 1829 I thought in either Vermont or New York was and it turns out he was from the New Hampshire-Maine line of Robinsons!  Sometimes it turns out that an ancestor evidently never knows for sure where they had been born  Maybe it wasn't that big a deal back then. I had census information from 1870 and 1880 and they both said he was born in Vermont.  The 1900 census said he was from New York. Then he died in 1904.
                                                                         
My male cousin, son of my mother's brother had his DNA tested and his Y haplogroup has tested to 67 alleles and more to the point where it is now tagged as R-L21.  It had been called R1b1a2a1a1b4.  You can see why it was changed to something easier.  The dys of the first allele was a 12-something a little rare.  Most other R haplogroup people had a 13.  There was one man who matched my cousin but his Robinsons were from Maine.  That wasn't on any census.  As it turns out, they were from New Hampshire before they went into Maine.  I thought from other possible lines of Robinsons that we had been in New Hampshire as well.  This was New England and New England was full of Robinsons.  This genealogy is like trying to find the needle dropped in the haystack.  Everyone was a Robinson!  It was Reverend John Robinson who sent the Pilgrims on the Mayflower to America!  He never made it himself but his son, Isaac came over and fathered a whole flock of Robinsons.
                                                                     
Because of this one man that we have connected to through Family Tree's Y haplogroup test, I had procured his genealogy tree, and tried blindly to connect Abiathar to it without any knowledge.  Since then I undid this with ease, using my Old Family Tree Maker software program one now downloads.  I had to have my son put it in my computer for me years ago.

1  Samuel Sherbourne Robinson b: January 15, 1810 in Mt. Vernon, Kennebec, Maine d: October 21, 1892 in Mt. Vernon, Kennebec, Maine

1  [1] James ROBINSON b: January 24, 1777 in Deerfield, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: March 26, 1857 in Mt Vernon, Kennebec, Maine
.. +Phebe Sherbourne b: Abt. 1777 in Wakefield, New Hampshire d: in prob. Mt Vernon, Kennebec, Maine
                                                       

As it turns out, our Robinsons are not one of Reverend John Robinson who sent the Pilgrims from Holland onto the Mayflower. In this case, their DNA's Y haplogroup is unknown, though an R.   Now, my next challenge will be to connect my three female dna matches that I have found through 23&;Me, Family Tree DNA and GedMatch.com.  Maybe it will now be easier. I'll be checking out the Meppershall Tree.   Whatever, with Abiathar's oral history of his ancestor coming to America not on the Mayflower but the next ship, we know we originated in Massachusetts, and wandered through Connecticut, New Hampshire, Vermont, and now can add Maine to our New England Robinson family.  Like grandfather Frank had said, he was A BLUE BLOODED YANKEE!

Notable people from this part of Maine are:

• Joseph W. Allen, state legislator
• Joseph Payne, musician
• John H. Rice, U.S. congressman
•                                                          
  
• Moses Sherburne, politician and Minnesota Supreme Court Justice Moses G. Sherburne (January 25, 1808 – March 23, 1868) was an American politician and jurist.(Isn't this a derivative of Sherbourne?)
  Born in Mount Vernon, Kennebec County, Maine, Sherburne studied at the academy in China, Maine. He then studied law and was admitted to the Maine bar in 1831. He practiced law in Phillips, Maine, where he served as postmaster and in the Maine Legislature, and later lived in Franklin County, Maine. Sherburne served in the Maine House of Representatives, in 1842, and then in the Maine State Senate, in 1845, as a Democrat. Sherburne also served as justice of the peace and then as probate judge for Franklin County, Maine. He was also major general for the Maine militia. In 1850, Sherburne served as Maine Bank Commissioner. He then ran for the United States House of Representatives as a Democrat in 1852. He finished in Minnesota.  
• John L. Stevens, U.S. diplomat and Republican Party founder

Resource: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mecreadf/mtvernon.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Sherburne
https://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Sherburne-22/890
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1877095
http://history.rays-place.com/nh/deerfield-nh.htm

Nadene Goldfoot                                                                        

This is the ancestor I started with in figuring who must be Abiathar's father.  Through him I have landed in Meppershall, England, matching my DNA match's findings of having Meppershall as our origin in England. "Meppershall is a hilltop village in Bedfordshire near Shefford,Campton, Shillington, Stondon and surrounded by farmland. The Village and the Manor House are mentioned in the Domesday Book in 1086."

There is a wonderful book that I procured through the library loan program about the History of Royalton, Vermont with all the genealogy in it.  I was able to have the book for 3 weeks or a month a long time ago, and found it very hard to follow, but did the best I could in understanding her genealogy.  Written by Lovejoy, it holds a lot besides Robinsons.
                                                                     
Abiathar Smith Robinson was born in December 1829.  I know this from the 1870 census as he wasn't even on the 1850 or 1860. However,  I found him marrying Julia Ann Tuller on February 29, 1852 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont.  Then I didn't see him until the 1870, 1880 and 1900 censuses when he was in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois with Julia Ann and living near Albert Tuller, her brother and his family.  Evidently they traveled there together. He and his family were in Canada during the Civil War and returned to Illinois after it was over.  I do not know why.  Another researcher found them living there.
                                                                               
My grandfather, Frank Hugh Robinson, left home from around age 16 or older as he was mad at his dad for not allowing him to move his horse out of the pasture on a Sunday.  A bull was in the field and he was afraid his horse would get gored and killed.  It may have happened because he left home and never returned.  He loved his horses.
                                                                     
 Later, he became a teamster with a team of 4 horses in Portland, Oregon .  He saw and met Nathan Abraham Goldfoot, my father's father before any marriage, and Nathan had a time managing his one horse and wagon.  This was evidently a new experience for him, an immigrant from Lithuania via England and Ireland.  He was working the same area as Abiathar. In 1912, Nathan was thrown out of his wagon by his spooked horse, hit his head and wound up in St. Vincent's hospital, but never woke.  He died shortly.
                                                                   
                                            Royalton, Windsor, Vermont

1. I start out with Abiathar's father being Amos Robinson born in 1797 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont.
2. His father could have been Amos Robinson born in 1767 in Lebanon, New London, Connecticut
3. His father was Amos Robinson born in 1734 born in Lunenburg, Worcester, Massachusetts
4. His father was Amos Robinson born in 1711 born in Topsfield, Essex, Massachusetts
5. His father was Jacob Robinson born in 1680 in Topsfield, Essex, Massachusetts
6. His father was John Robinson born in 1641 in Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts
7.  His father was John Robinson born in 1611 in Meppershall, Bedfordshire, England

Why Abiathar hasn't been on any paper trail to his birth is beyond me, but evidently all births may not happen in a place where it is easily recorded.

Waiting for familyfinder results.  They have to redo the test; status should be available by Nov 19th I hope.  
Update 11/13/14 Reminded that another from this line had #393 allele as a 13, so this is the wrong tree.  
Update 11/13/14 Ran into information on my own blog about a Daniel Robinson with family's testing showing #393 allele is a 12.  He was born in 1627 in Scotland and lived in New haven CT.  He married Hope Potter.  His parents were Richard and Mary.  http://robbins.wikispot.org/Daniel_Robins_(1627-1714)
I'll have to check into this.