Friday, April 23, 2010


R1b Haplogroup's Age

The marker defining haplogroup R1b is M343. They appeared about 30,000 years ago and a descendant of this clan made his way into Europe. They were direct descendants of the Cro-Magnons, who created the famous cave paintings found in southern France. They had also made jewelry from shells, bones, ivory and had musical instruments and even stone carvings. The paintings showed animals and their life events like spring, molting, hunting and pregnancy.Now in our family, I find that both Henwood and Robinson are in the haplogroup of M269 or R1b1b2, and even they are a little different with the Dys#393 being a 12 in Robinson and a 13 in Henwood showing they they originated in different places at different times. Both were found to be in some part of Great Britain with Henwood centered in Hampshire, England. Robinson's oral history is supposedly in Wales.

Research: Deep Ancestry inside the Genographic Project by Spencer Wells


Wednesday, April 21, 2010


Grandpa Robinson-Celtic Family From Wales-or Roman Soldier

Maybe Grandpa was right when he said his family originated in Wales. The land of Wales in AD 43 wasn't anything but land surrounded on three sides by the sea. The Romans tried to subdue the Welsh tribes after Claudius invaded it then. It was occupied by Celtic tribes. They were the (1) Silures in the south, the (2) Demetae in the southwest, the (3) Cornovii in the middle, the (4) Deceangli on the north coast and the (5) Ordovices in the mountains of Snowdonia and Cader Idris. Our family could have come from one of these tribes or more likely the Romans themselves.

The Silures attacked the border in AD 47 and 48 and were encouraged to do so by Caratacus, who was a fugitive chieftain of the defeated Catuvellauni who had taken refuge in Wales. The Romans built fortresses at Gloucester and Usk to contain the Silare tribe. Caratacus moved north and was defeated in AD 51. His wife and children were captured, so he fled to the court of Queen Cartimandua, leader of the Brigantes in northern Britannia. There he was handed over to the Romans by Cartimandua and taken to Rome in Chains. He was surprised by being relased by Claudius after he made a speech where he asked, "Why do you, who possess so many palaces, covet our poor tents?" However, the Silure tribe resumed their attacks and defeated the 20th legion in AD 52. The Emperor Nero had succeeded Claudiius in AD 54 and issued instructions to subdue the whole island of Britannia and so in AD 58 a new governor arrived. He was Suetonius Paulinus, a professional soldier with experience in the Atlas Mountains of Algeria. In two years he had Wales in an iron grip. Refugees ran to Anglesey, the center of the Druids, and Suetonius attacked. The British had lined the shore of the Menai Straits and among them were black robed women with wild messy hair like the Furies holding torches. Nearby stood the Druids with hands raised to the heavens screaming curses at the Romans. The Romans weren't scared and swam across the Straits and defeated the Centic refugees and the Druids. They destroyed their sacred groves of trees. Unfortunately Suetonius had to leave hurridly to deal with another revolt of the Iceni so General Julius Agricola finished the job in AD 78 by killing everyone.

Those military outposts became centers of economic activity. Who were the Roman soldiers? Not all were Italians from Rome. They would be granted citizenship in Wales at retirement. and had come from the valleys of the Rhine and the Danube, or Germany. That doesn't sound like our beginnings that were from the East with a Dys# 393 allele being a 12. The Roman army left in the 4th and 5th centuries. Then the Irish attacked, mainly Niall of the Nine Hostages. They raided looking for slaves and acted like the Vikings. They also looked for places to settle.

Resource: Saxons, Vikings, and Celts by Bryan Sykes

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Monday, April 19, 2010


Time Frame of Life on Earth

The ancient stone age, the oldest or Palaeolithic goes back at least 2 million years ago with a type of human not like us. Homo sapiens, or us, appears about 150,000 years ago. We entered Europe about 45,000 years ago as we originated in Africa about 60,000 years ago with a single family in an African valley. That's called the Upper Palaeolithic age.

The end of the last Ice Age was 13,000 years ago. That's the time of adapting to agriculture and was known as the Mesolithic age. People were living in what is now Ireland at Mount Sandel 9,000 years ago. They found the oldest houses in the whole of the Isles there. It was round like a large tent 5.5 metres in diameter. There was inside a large square hole for a central hearth, and outside were pits, probably for storage. It was probably used as a base camp. There were hundreds of salmon bones, hazelnuts and seeds of water lilies, wild pear and crab apple. Remains of young pigs were found. Everything they needed was within a 2 hr. walk.

At this time the islands of Britain were connected to continental Europe. Ice had been retreating 4,000 before, about 13,000 years ago. The weather was not stationery. The earth wobbled and there was a strong cold snap 11,000 years ago or so forcing people back down south again clearing the Islands of people. The sea froze down to northern Spain and northern Europe became barren and cold tundra. This phase, the Younger Dryas, lasted for about 1,000 years and then the earth warmed up quickly, and homans reentered northern Euope. They saw herds of reindeer and wild horses on the open plains again. Mount Sandel had trees.

9,500 years ago, in about the time of 7,000BCE, the temperature was the same or higher than it is today. Ice had melted and the sea rose. Ireland was isolated from the rest of the Isles around 8,500 years ago. That's why there are no snakes, lizards or even moles in Ireland.

Of the mtdna, or female dna, U1 goes back 50,000 years. Female dna goes back much further and has not mutated as much as the male or Ydna and is what can be retreived from bone findings.

Resource: Dr. Spencer Wells-60,000 years, etc.
Reference: Saxons, Vikings, and Celts : The genetic roots of Britain and Ireland by Bryan Sykes

Ordered Further Testing to 67 Alleles

I just decided to order a higher level test from the 25 Y allele test to 67 alleles. I want to see if we fit into some catagories that are being found with the DYS 393 allele that is a 12. We just can't tell much for sure without this extended testing. After this might come some snip testing. I ordered it just now.

I hope it doesn't take too long to get the answers.


Sunday, April 11, 2010


A Fit For Abiathar Smith Robinson b: Dec 1829 Vermont

I just ran across a possible family that my ggrandfather, Abiathar Smith Robinson, could have come from. Cyrus Robinson and his wife, Thankful, may be his parents. According to the 1840 census of Sharon, Windsor, Vermont, there was a boy age 10-15 years of age that was not on anyone's list for these parents. He was an unknown. Therefore, he either died in infancy, or, he could be my ancestor. His age just fits, and this is a family that I have high hopes for. I already know the two genealogists for this family, Kay and Susan Robinson. I already know of other Robinson lines we do not come from through dna testing. This one is not known at this time.

Descendants of Cyrus B. Robinson
1 Cyrus B. Robinson b: Bet. 1808 - 1809 in prob. Royalton, Vermont d: Bet. 1860 - 1870 in prob. Sharon, Windsor, VT
. +Thankful Unknown b: Abt. 1812 in Vermont d: Aft. 1850 in prob. Strafford, Orange, Vermont
... 2 Boy Robinson b: Abt. 1829 in prob. Sharon, Windsor, VT
... 2 [1] Edna Robinson b: Abt. 1833 in Vermont
... 2 [2] Mary A. Robinson b: Abt. 1835 in Vermont
*2nd Wife of Cyrus B. Robinson:
. +Martha Unknown b: Abt. 1810 in New Hampshire d: Aft. August 1870 in prob. Sharon, Windsor, VT
... 2 [1] Edna Robinson b: Abt. 1833 in Vermont
... 2 [2] Mary A. Robinson b: Abt. 1835 in Vermont

Robinsons of America Newsletter-Found

I just surfed the web and found "Robinsons of America Newsletter". It costs $16 per year for four issues and covered the surname Robertson as well. I've also found this in census records; in fact that's what I found for my own family. In the cursive writing of the census takers, it sometimes was hard to read as well as the fact that you were depending on the census writer's knowledge of spelling as well.

Robinsons from Wales Long, Long Ago

Since my grandfather, Frank Hugh Robinson said that his people were originally from Wales and came over here on a ship right after the Mayflower, I've been interested in history.

I've found that there were Robinsons from Wales. The following information came from the Dictionary of Welsh Biography found in the National Library in Wales.

There was a Robinson family of Conway, Caerns, Monachdy, Anglesey, and Gwersyllt, Denbs. They were descended from a Cheshire knight, Sir William Norris who married a sister of Owain Tudor. Their son was Robin Norris. His son, Henry, took the surname of Robinson. He was indeed the son of Robin. Thus we have Henry Robinson.

Nicholas Robinson was born about 1530 and died in 1585, so died at about the age of 55. He was the bishop of Bangor and was the younger son of John Robinson of Conway who was the son of Henry Robinson. His mother was Elin, daughter of the Reverend W. Brickdale of the Wirral and his wife Marsli. Marsli was a descendant of the family of Conway of Bodrhyddan. Nicholas entered Queens' College, Cambridge in March 1545. He was elected Fellow at the instance of Edward VI's Protestant visitors around 1548 before going on for his M.A. in 1551. Nicholas's wife was Jane Brereton, daughter of Randle Brereton. She was also granddaughter of Sir William Griffith of Penrhyn, an heir. In Mary's reign he signed the Roman Catholic articles of faith imposed on the University in 1555 and was ordained acolyte, deacon and priest on three days in March 1557. As bishop, he took a strong ine against images, pilgrimages and other superstitions. He had to defend himself against charges of popery in 1582. He died 13 Feb 1585 and was buried in his cathedral.

William Robinson was born in 1576 and died in 1644, living for 68 years. He entered Hart Hall, Oxford, on 11 Feb. 1592 and was sheriff of Denbighshire in 1630. He was the owner of Gwersyllt Uchaf which was bought by his father, and of Anglesey in 1632. He served as commissioner of the array for Denbighshire in Sept. 1642 and married Jane, daughter of John Pryce of Newtown Hall.

Humphrey Robinson was born in 1577 and died in 1621, only living for about 44 years. He entered Hart Hall, Oxford with his brother but graduated from University College with a BA in 1596 and an MA in 1598 and added a Cambridge MA in 1600 when he became rector of Aber and other added promotions.

Hugh Robinson was born in 1584 and died in 1655 at the age of 71. He was educated at Winchester from 1596 to 1603 and New College. He became Fellow of New College in 1605 and Informator or headmaster of Winchester. He also held several English livings from which Parliament extruded him in 1647 till he took the Covenant and was compensated elsewhere. He may have succeeded Humphrey Robinson at Caerhun and Llanbedr in 1613 in 1617 and kept all these positions, inspite of complaints of neglect in 1618 till he was ejected under the Propagation Act in 1650 just after becoming useful to Owen Wynn of Gwydir by reminding the dying archbishop John Williams of a promse to his niece Grace, Wynn's wife.

John Robinson was born in 1617 and died in 1681, living for 64 years. He was a royalist commander and was the eldest son of William Robinson b: 1576. He entered Christ Church, Oxford on26 Sept 1634 and Gray's Inn on 23 Dec 1637. He served in Ireland and was commissioned as Lieutenant-Colonel in the Royal Forces at home, defending Holt Castle, Denbs, against the Roundheads inNov 1643. He was commander of a company at Rowton Heath on 24 Sept 1645. He had to sign terms of surrender after defending Anglesey and had seized the fort of Lleiniog. He took flight to the Isle of Man and France. He succeeded Sir John Owen as vice-admiral for North Wales and married a NOrris of Speke. In Parliament he supported the Court as he was drawing 200 lbs a year in secret service money in 1679. He was a militia colonel who was active in accusing the Dissenters and Quakers of Denbighshire. He died on 22 March 1681 and is buried at Gresford.

William Robinson was born in 1668 and died in 1717. He served Denbighshire both as sheriff in 1690 and in Parliament from 1705-1707. The line ended with the drowning of Skerries in 1739 of William's grandson and namesake when the estate was in debt and had to be sold to pay them off. A younger grandson of the Royalist Colonel adopted the surname Lytton after a cousin because he inherited the Hertfordshire estate of Knebworth. An ancestor was Edward Bulwer-Lytton, 1st Baron Lytton of Knebworth who was born in 1803 and died in 1873. He was a novelist.


Friday, April 09, 2010


Amos Robinsons in Vermont

In 1790, I found the following:
1. Amos Robinson in Hartford with 10 in his family.
2. Amos in Northfield, Orange VT with 7 in his family.
3. Amos in Clarendon, Rutland with 8 in his family.
4. Amos in Clarendon with 7 in his family. It must be junior.

In 1800 I found the following:
1. Amos in Newbury, Orange with 11 in his family.
2. Amos in Clarendon, Rutland with 4 in his family.
3. Amos in Clarendon with 3 in his family.
4. Amos in Hartford with 9 in his family.
5. Amos in Royalton with 6 in his family. He had 3 males under age 16, 2 females.

It's easy to follow the wrong man at this rate. Everyone is an Amos.

Friday, April 02, 2010


New E-Mail about a 1922 born Madison, Wisconsin Robinson From WWII

Hello Belgium DE inform research on Robinson Robert E 36296466 28 th infantry soldier WWII Residence state Wisconsin Birth Year 22 see website. N A R A plug is on Write Robert E. Robinson BRANCH OF SERVICE U. S. Army HOMETOWN Madison, WI Honored BY Marci A. Robinson Hughes, Daughter ACTIVITY DURING WWII Fought IN THE BATTLE OF THE BULGER, BELGIUM. SERVED IN A TANK BATTALION. INJURED. RECEIVED A SILVER HEART. have come home to my mother in the winter of '44

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