Monday, January 18, 2010
This 1146 plus page history has been recognized as one of the best local histories in Vermont because of the depth of research and the extent of material Mrs. Lovejoy gathered for the book. I have read this book and gained a lot of information about Royalton. This is where my greatgrandmother, Julia Ann Tuller, was born in 1834 and raised and probably where she met Abiathar Smith Robinson, her future husband. They married in 1852 right outside of Royalton in Tunbridge, Vermont.
The way I got this book was to send for it through inter-library loan. If you have a library card, you can get it.
Sunday, January 17, 2010
Found: Fourth Abiathar Robinson
Abiathar Robinson, born 1788, Seth Robinson, Rachel Brayman.
I already had Seth and Rachel on my tree, connected on there somehow, haven't figured that out as yet. Though my Abiathar was born in 1829 supposedly in Vermont, this one couldn't be my great grandfather. However, I'm wondering if the 41 year age span couldn't be close enough to be his father or even his grandfather.
Irish Robinson Discovered
Update: 1/21/10: Today on NBC Peter's wife, Iris, made the news in a scandal. She had taken herself a young lover, who is not a willing partner. Peter has been married to Iris for a very long time and took time off his duties to work on this problem. He has decided to stay married to her. It sounds like she also needs to go for sex therapy, like Tiger Woods. All this on TV this morning as they played "Mrs. Robinson" lyrics in the background from The Graduate by Simon & Garfunkel from 1967's The Graduate with Anne Bancroft and Dustin Hoffman. The shot of Peter showed a very nice appearing man. This was a movie about another Mrs. Robinson who took a lover for herself, who was Dustin Hoffman, a new graduate. It sounds like both Mr. Robinsons had lost their zip. "And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson....____ loves you more than you will know-wo, w0, w0...G-d bless you please, Mrs. Robinson......."
Our Haplogroup R1b1b2 (M269) Latest Info
Oral history is that our ancestor came over not on the Mayflower but the ship after that, so those ancestors must have come from England or the United Kingdom or possibly even Holland at that point. That's Western Europe.
Labels: R1b1b2 haplogroup
Monday, January 11, 2010
Timeline for Abiathar Smith Robinson
1829 December 1829 Abiather born in Vermont
1834 December 18, Julia Ann Tuller born in Royalton, Vermont
1852 February 29: married in Tunbridge, VT to Julia Ann Tuller
1852 Rix Robinson b: 1852 in Vermont
1853 Edgar Clyde Robinson b: 1853 Vermont
1853- first settler in Wenona, first railroad, Illinois Central in Wenona
1855 WENONA, Illinois 53 PEOPLE
1856 WENONA, Illinois 1200 PEOPLE
1857 Nellie Elizabeth Robinson b: Upper Canada-before Civil War
1861 April 12 CIVIL WAR STARTED
1861 Hattie Emma Robinson b: August Canada
1864 John C. Robinson b: April 21 Montreal, Canada, English part
1865 April 9, CIVIL WAR ENDED
1865 Julia Robinson BORN Vermont
1867 William Robinson June 1867 prob. Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
1870 11 August Fed Census Wenona: Abiathar 41, Julia 35, Edgar 17, Nellie 11, Emma 9, John
7, William 1 yr old. (Census no agreeing with age-parents confused?)
1871 June 21, Frank Hugh Robinson b: Wenona, Marshall, Illinois (1870? Not on census)
1875 November Minnie J.b: Wenona, Illinois
1879 May 18, Arthur Roy Robinson b:Wenona, Illinois
1880 7 June Fed Census Wenona, Illinois Rix 28,
1887 December 2, Julia Ann Robinson nee Tuller died Wenona, Illinois
1896 marriage to Mary Jane Walters b: Nov 1832 Ohio in Wenona, Illinois
1898-1902 Spanish-American War (Manzel Robinson-commander and Edward Robinson)
1900 7 June Fed Census, Wenona, Illinois Abiathar 70, Mary J 67.
1904 October 7, Abiathar Smith Robinson died: Wenona, Illinois
Sunday, January 10, 2010
Chase Robinson 1791 from Rick A. Robinson
He offers Chase Robinson b: 1791 who married Roena Abell b: 1801 and d: 1879. I believe Chase's father was John Robinson. Chase and Roena were born in the USA, most likely New Hampshire. They were 7th Day Adventists. This is most interesting as our oral history is that my grandfather ran away from home because his father, Abiathar Smith, didn't allow any work on the Sabbath, and my grandfather, Frank Hugh, was worried about his favorite horse who was in the pasture with a mean bull. Evidently the horse was gored and my grandfather ran away from home, never to return again. In thinking about it, his father could have been 7th Day Adventist, also, which could connect these two Robinson families. I found this family on the 1851 St. Bernard de Lacolle Census in Quebec, Canada living in a log house like the others on the census sheet.
They had 14 children who were born in Lacolle, Quebec. This is interesting as our Abiathar Smith Robinson and wife Julia Ann Tuller went to Canada, and probably Quebec during the Civil War and removed to Wenona, Illinois after it was all over.
The children were John b: 1831 in Lacolle, Quebec d: 1889 in Pennsylvania, Mary b: 1834, Hiram b: 1837, Roena b: 1838, Richard Hoyth b: 17 Sep 1840 d: 5 Jul 1922, Melissa b: 4 Jul 1832, Wealthy June b: 1842, Lydia Louisa b: 14 Aug 1844 d: 1 Jan 1924 in Lachine, Quebec, Orange b: 4 Sep 1843 d: 1911 East Branch, Penn, Caroline Electra , Joseph b: 1835 m: Elizabeth Bayhale, Sarah A b: 1864 and Charles P.
Go to Rick's "John and Chase Robinson Genealogy at http://www.angelfire.com/home/lake/lacolle/genealogy.html. It's a great source including music with your research.
Tuesday, January 05, 2010
England 1620 Living Conditions
Saturday, January 02, 2010
When Did Robinsons Come to America?
The majority of people living in England in the 1620's were very poor. The monarch, Queen Elizabeth I and James I, wanted to maintain the Church of England as the only permissible religion. Anyone suspected of religious deviance was imprisoned, threatened, fined, sometimes tortured and even hanged. Therefore, the ones who came over sought to escape religious persecution and wanted to worship in the manner they believed to be the "proper Christian way." Children were put to work by the time they were age 6 or 7. They were expected to do as they're told. Complete and unquestioning obedience was the rule. Sunday was a day of rest and religion. Church services began at 8 in the morning and lasted until noon. Services resumed around 2 p.m. and continued until 5 p.m. or 6p.m.
They could have come over in 1630 as one of 700 people who left from Bristol Bay as that is so close to Wales. Our ancestor could have been one of the West Country folks. The Puritans of South Wales were in a weaving center. It was the closest association to the English plains or coastal plains. It was developed by Independents and Baptists. These people were especially selected for persecution in S.W. Wales. So they could also have come here because of religious persecution.Wolcott began selling off servants to Virginia. Thomas Morton took over and called it MERRY MOUNT. He freed the servants and set up a joint trading enterprise.
Ten years later, a fleet of eleven ships came over with the flagship Arbella from Southampton. This was now the year 1630. The people went to Boston, Charleston, Waterdown, Roxburg, New Town (Cambridge), Mystic, and Dorchester. Other ships mentioned in the fleet were the Talbat, Ambrose, and Jewel. They left England from Bristol and Plymath (by Wales), and Southampton.
Wolcott began selling off servants to Virginia. Thomas Morton took over and called it MERRY MOUNT. He freed the servants and set up a joint trading enterprise.
Thirty years after the Mayflower arrived, another ship landed at the Mass. Bay Colony. This was in 1650. The ship took from 6 to 12 weeks to get here and ran out of food. They settled in Rhode Island, New Hampshire and Connecticut.
From 1717 to 1775 convicts came over. Bond servants came over before the Revolutionary War.
His family could have been in Vermont for the past 78 or 79 years.[ The first settlement of English was in 1724. It was Fort Dummer or "Brattleboro." In 1760 more people moved in. They were from Conn. and Mass. They purchased land.] He stated on 1900 census b: NY.
The family oral tradition was that his family didn't come over from Wales (could also have been Scotland-but Grandpa Frank remembered Wales) on the Mayflower. They came on the next ship. Our ancestors were probably Pilgrims that came over after the Mayflower. They were then separatists from the Church of England. The 30 years after the Mayflower saw about 20,000 English immigrants arrive in the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and because of the strictness there, our ancestors moved into what was to become New Hampshire and Connecticut.
The journey on the terribly overcrowed ship took over 6 to 12 weeks and often ran out of food even though they were promised food. It cost about 30 pounts ($1,000) for a family of 8 with a ton of freight to come over. That was a lot of money even in 1630. So far I haven't found any Robinsons on any of the ships. We know that Pastor John Robinson, the minister who sent the Pilgrims over in 1620, didn't ever come over but his son Isaac Robinson did. Other Robinsons must have come around that time, too, being it is such a common name.
The New York or Vermont Dilemma
Our great grandfather said he owned his farm. He said he could not write but could read.
N.Y. is divided by Lake Champlain and bordered by Quebec and Ontario, Conn. Mass. and Vermont. The lower tip of Manhatten, called New Amsterdam was populated first. Fort Orange in Albany was also popular, in Westchester County.
At the end of the 1776 Revolution, many Tories (sided with British) fled to Canada. The war of 1812 was fought along N.Y. frontier and Canada. By 1820, 1/2 people in N.Y. were New Englanders. Quebec probably was where the Robinsons lived during the Civil War. La Salle in Canada was also possible, or the St. Lawrence Colony. At the end of the revolution people were called United Empire Loyalists who lived in lower Canada. Quebec became known as Canada East.
Naming Patterns in England and Wales
Robinsons Were Saxons: Who Were Saxons?
It is claimed that the Robinsons were Saxon Thanes before William the Conqueror from 1027 to 1087. It is something to trace as it is America's 22nd most popular surname. It was William the Conqueror who brought the custom of family names from Normandy. By the end of the 13th century, peasants were using family names. By 1413, Henry V wanted a surname on papers. By 1538 they were used in parish registers.
The Saxons were Saxons before 1027. They were a Teutonic people and were mentioned by Ptolemy in the middle of the 2nd Century. They were from the Cimbric Peninsula (province of Schleswig Pirates in the North Sea in the year 286). In the 5th century they raided the north coast of Gaul and the S.E. coast of Britain. They conquered NW Germany. They conflicted with the Franks who were supreme. They were heathens and a sea-faring people.
In the 7th century was the Saxon conquest in Wales. Robin Hood, our possible namesake, was the last of the Saxons. He held out against the Norman conquerors at the end of the 12th Century.
Wales was the land of the Celts, the Brythons. They crossed the channel. Celts originally were in the western and central part of Europe. The Scandinavians merged with the natives there.