Saturday, June 20, 2020
Triangulation Findings of Common Ancestor Jonathan Robinson b: 1645
More DNA evidence about the male line of our ggrandfather, Abiathar Smith Robinson b: 1829 in ? who died in Illinois shows that his father could have been James Robinson b: 24 January 1777 in Brentwood, Rockingham, New Hampshire and died in Mt. Vernon, Kennebec, Maine. He was married to Phebe Sherbourne. They were both buried in the Robinson Cemetery.
The reason I think this is that it's part of a line belonging to a very close match of his, another James Robinson, as a matter of fact, of Maine and another Robinson who also follows his tree. In this family, Abiathar could have been one of 10 siblings, and had ridden off to Vermont when about 20 years old.
Or somewhere along this family line of Robinsons, our line connects with the same Y haplogroup DNA.
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This was just verified by Tim Fitzpatrick of the Fitzpatrick group on FTDNA, because all 3 show we also have Irish genes of the Fitzpatrick line. This was not found by our genealogy findings, but by DNA matchings. Amazing, isn't it? It doesn't mean that we share any segments of DNA on our 23 chromosomes, either as a different test would show.
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By 1790 there were 1,722 people in Exeter. Rockingham, New Hampshire, where Jonathan Robinson died. Exeter suffered its last Indian raid in August 1723 and by 1725 the tribes had left the area. In 1774 the rebellious Provincial Congress began to meet in the Exeter Town House after Colonial Governor John Wentworth banned it from the colonial capitol at Portsmouth. In July 1775, the Provincial Congress had the provincial records seized from royal officials in Portsmouth and brought to Exeter as well. And so Exeter became New Hampshire's American Revolutionary War capital, an honor it held for 14 years until Concord assumed the role. He died at age 82.
Rockingham County, New Hampshire History - Genealogy
1 [7] JONATHAN ROBINSON b: May 16, 1645 in Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts d: September 1727 in Exeter, Rockingham, NH
. +Sarah Elizabeth Cram Scribner b: 1649 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: 1690 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: Bet. 1670 - 1671 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 [1] John Robinson III b: September 07, 1671 in Exeter, Rockingham, NH d: Bef. July 07, 1755 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +[6] Mehitable Stanyan b: January 01, 1675/76 in Hampton, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: July 07, 1749 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: Abt. 1715 in Exeter, New Hampshire
.... *2nd Wife of [1] John Robinson III:
........ +Elizabeth Folsom b: Abt. 1671 m: February 01, 1725/26
.... 2 Sarah Robinson b: October 29, 1673
.... 2 Hester Esther Robinson b: August 12, 1677 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 [2] Elizabeth Robinson b: September 06, 1679 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Abraham Folsom b: Abt. 1679
.... *2nd Husband of [2] Elizabeth Robinson:
........ +James Runlett Rundlett b: Abt. 1679 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: June 1724 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: November 21, 1699 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 [3] JONATHAN ROBINSON b: July 09, 1681 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: May 11, 1758 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Mary D. Folsom b: Abt. 1682 in poss. Exeter, Rockingham, NH d: February 10, 1754 in prob. Exter, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: 1705 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... *2nd Wife of [3] JONATHAN ROBINSON:
........ +Ruth Morse b: April 15, 1684 in Groton, Middlesex, Massachusetts d: April 25, 1759 in Lexington, Middlesex, Massachusetts m: June 19, 1706 in Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts
.... 2 [4] David Robinson b: July 28, 1684 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: May 17, 1769 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Sarah Sanborn b: 1686 in Hampton, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: 1778 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: January 01, 1704/05 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... *2nd Wife of [4] David Robinson:
........ +Martha Brown b: Abt. 1684 in Hampton Falls rockingham, New Hampshire m: April 27, 1742
.... 2 JAMES ROBINSON, Captain b: December 07, 1685 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: December 27, 1769 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Mary Jackson b: Bet. 1685 - 1689 in Exeter, Rockingham, NH d: Aft. February 1719/20 in Stratham, Rockingham, NH m: 1711 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 [5] Joseph Robinson b: May 01, 1690 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: August 16, 1776 in Nottingham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Sara Norris b: 1690 d: 1756
.... *2nd Wife of [5] Joseph Robinson:
........ +Sarah Norris b: 1690 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: 1756 in prob. Nottingham, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: August 18, 1716 in Epping, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 John Robinson b: 1671 d: 1749 in New Hampshire
........ +[6] Mehitable Stanyan b: January 01, 1675/76 in Hampton, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: July 07, 1749 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
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Another party, not a Robinson, also matches the male line of Y with FT111213 as well. They are also a line from Maine. Our Abiathar Smith Robinson is the first to leave the Vermont history. I didn't have a clue his family could be from Maine. He was alone in Vermont without parents that I knew of. On the 1850 census, his future 15 year old wife in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont, had a 51 yr old John Robinson farmer living with them helping out her father. I had suspected him to be Abiathar's father, but Abiathar wasn't staying there with him. Julia Ann Tuller and Abiathar married in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont next door to Royalton. They had a lot of Robinsons living there, and I believe Abiathar was staying there. The problem is that Robinson is a very common surname, being 16th most popular in the USA. New England was loaded with Robinsons.
"From the 12th century onwards, a group of Normans, and our Robinson line appears to be Norman, invaded and settled in Gaelic Ireland. These settlers later became known as Norman Irish or Hiberno-Normans. ... In Ireland, the Normans were also closely associated with the Gregorian Reform of the Catholic Church in Ireland. "
"The Fitzpatricks remained powerful despite the military force of the Normans. They were one of the first major Irish families to relent to Henry VIII."
Through DNA's family finder test of our 23 chromosomes having segments of DNA, I have found other women with bits of DNA matching ours on a few of our 23 chromosomes showing that Robinsons did connect with other Robinsons that were connected to us.
Resource: https://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20100917/NEWS/9170386
http://www.hampton.lib.nh.us/hampton/history/hazlett.htm
https://salemwitchmuseum.com/locations/welcome-to-haverhill/
https://ireland-calling.com/irish-names-fitzpatrick/#:~:text=The%20Fitzpatricks%20remained%20powerful%20despite,to%20relent%20to%20Henry%20VIII.
https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=fitzpatrick#:~:text=Irish%3A%20occasionally%20this%20may%20be,Giolla%20P%C3%A1draig%20(see%20Kilpatrick).
Labels: Abiathar Smith Robinson, dna, Jonathan Robinson b: 1645, Maine, Vermont
Tuesday, October 10, 2017
Robinson Tree Discovers Missing GGGrandparents Through DNA Testing of Y Haplogroup Match
My male cousin, son of my mother's brother had his DNA tested and his Y haplogroup has tested to 67 alleles and more to the point where it is now tagged as R-L21. It had been called R1b1a2a1a1b4. You can see why it was changed to something easier. The dys of the first allele was a 12-something a little rare. Most other R haplogroup people had a 13. There was one man who matched my cousin but his Robinsons were from Maine. That wasn't on any census. As it turns out, they were from New Hampshire before they went into Maine. I thought from other possible lines of Robinsons that we had been in New Hampshire as well. This was New England and New England was full of Robinsons. This genealogy is like trying to find the needle dropped in the haystack. Everyone was a Robinson! It was Reverend John Robinson who sent the Pilgrims on the Mayflower to America! He never made it himself but his son, Isaac came over and fathered a whole flock of Robinsons.
Because of this one man that we have connected to through Family Tree's Y haplogroup test, I had procured his genealogy tree, and tried blindly to connect Abiathar to it without any knowledge. Since then I undid this with ease, using my Old Family Tree Maker software program one now downloads. I had to have my son put it in my computer for me years ago.
1 Samuel Sherbourne Robinson b: January 15, 1810 in Mt. Vernon, Kennebec, Maine d: October 21, 1892 in Mt. Vernon, Kennebec, Maine
1 [1] James ROBINSON b: January 24, 1777 in Deerfield, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: March 26, 1857 in Mt Vernon, Kennebec, Maine
.. +Phebe Sherbourne b: Abt. 1777 in Wakefield, New Hampshire d: in prob. Mt Vernon, Kennebec, Maine
As I look at my evidence in the light of the next 5am morning, I am depending on Abiathar's present sibling, Samuel Sherbourne Robinson, to be an actual sibling. It's a most logical connection, unverified still. Yet we do have this matching DNA on the Y haplogroup that is a rare match and the tree. I still wonder why Abiathar didn't go into Maine or even New Hampshire, and why he went into Canada in those 10 some years in the 60's. Was he ostracized from the family? Did they have a bru-ha-ha like Abiathar had with my grandfather, Frank Hugh Robinson? Did they just lose touch with each other? Questions still remain. How do fathers get separated from their sons?
As it turns out, our Robinsons are not one of Reverend John Robinson who sent the Pilgrims from Holland onto the Mayflower. In this case, their DNA's Y haplogroup is unknown, though an R. Now, my next challenge will be to connect my three female dna matches that I have found through 23&;Me, Family Tree DNA and GedMatch.com. Maybe it will now be easier. I'll be checking out the Meppershall Tree. Whatever, with Abiathar's oral history of his ancestor coming to America not on the Mayflower but the next ship, we know we originated in Massachusetts, and wandered through Connecticut, New Hampshire, Vermont, and now can add Maine to our New England Robinson family. Like grandfather Frank had said, he was A BLUE BLOODED YANKEE!
Notable people from this part of Maine are:
- Joseph W. Allen, state legislator
- Joseph Payne, musician
- John H. Rice, U.S. congressman
- Moses Sherburne, politician and Minnesota Supreme Court Justice Moses G. Sherburne (January 25, 1808 – March 23, 1868) was an American politician and jurist.(Isn't this a derivative of Sherbourne?)Born in Mount Vernon, Kennebec County, Maine, Sherburne studied at the academy in China, Maine. He then studied law and was admitted to the Maine bar in 1831. He practiced law in Phillips, Maine, where he served as postmaster and in the Maine Legislature, and later lived in Franklin County, Maine. Sherburne served in the Maine House of Representatives, in 1842, and then in the Maine State Senate, in 1845, as a Democrat. Sherburne also served as justice of the peace and then as probate judge for Franklin County, Maine. He was also major general for the Maine militia. In 1850, Sherburne served as Maine Bank Commissioner. He then ran for the United States House of Representatives as a Democrat in 1852. He finished in Minnesota.
- John L. Stevens, U.S. diplomat and Republican Party founder
It would help to have several or more claimants of belonging to Reverend John Robinson's line to have the same Y haplogroup as my male cousin. Otherwise, my connecting to people of the same haplogroup looks like the better choice. Y haplogroup has very small mutations over a period of time. It's a way of telling who is on the same branch. Genealogy is showing one thing, yet science is showing another with science's DNA evidence in both. This is one big conundrum for me!
Post Script:
Another look at Peter Robinson on the Reverend John Robinson tree showed an amazing fact! Peter Robinson, son of Peter Robinson, Sr. was born October 25, 1717 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts in 1717 but died in Londonderry, Rockingham, New Hampshire!
That's where my searching on this line stopped. I think I've found the connection to both trees, if that's possible. Oh my. Maybe it has helped to write all this out. Halleluhah! I need to find more Robinsons now.
Peter Robinson's brother, already on the tree, is Ebenezer Robinson, Major in the Revolutionary war who had moved from Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts to Roxbury, Delaware, New York. He is the father of Daniel Robinson, Reverend b: 1771 in Carmel, Putnam, New York who died in Kattellville, Broome, Schoharie, New York in 1866. He was the father of Israel Robinson b: 1800 in Roxbury and died in Kattellville in 1867 who was the father of Ebenezer Ganong and most likely, ABIATHAR SMITH ROBINSON (1829).
Peter Robinson 1695-1785 and wife Elizabeth Sabin's 2 sons fathered the 2 different branches. He was born in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts and died in Barnstable, Massachusetts.
Major Ebenezer was born in 1735 in Rehoboth and he died in Roxbury, Delaware, New York. His wife was Anna Stone.
John was born in 1742 in Rehoboth and he died in Otsego, New York. His wife was Phoebe Clapp. It was his son, Jacob H Robinson born in 1790 in Vermont and died in Bakersfield, Franklin, Vermont that leads to a chromosomal match.
Thus we have the connection between the two trees. Rockingham, New Hampshire shows up in both trees. This is it. Who Abiathar's parents are doesn't really matter. He must be on both lines. DNA has proved that through the Y haplogroup of being R-L21 and also by finding actual chromosome matches of segments from people connected to the John Robinson-Pilgrim line. Whew! Think I'll keep him on the latter line with Ebenezer Ganong as a brother and Israel Robinson as his father. My Jewish bloodline and being a defender of Israel draws me with a smile to this ggggrandfather of mine. My father, Maurice Goldfoot, was a buyer of cattle. He would smile thinking that Israel lived in Kattellville.
Resource: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mecreadf/mtvernon.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Sherburne
https://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Sherburne-22/890
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1877095
http://history.rays-place.com/nh/deerfield-nh.htm
Labels: Abiathar Smith Robinson, Canada, Deerfield, dna, England, genealogy, Illinois, Kennebeck, Maine, Marshall, Meppershall, Mt. Vernon, New Hampshire, Rockingham, Vermont, Wenona
Friday, November 07, 2014
Abiathar Smith of Maine and Several Abiathar Robinsons
My googling uncovered an Abiathar Smith of Maine. This is very exciting since my ggrandfather, Abiathar Smith Robinson, doesn't seem to have any father in Vermont or New York, and DNA shows that we match a line of Robinsons who have been living in Maine!
A line in a bio says, "Mr. Holbrook's father, Elisha Holbrook, came from Cape Cod and settled at Isle au Haut about the year 1800. There he married a daughter of Abiathar Smith."
Cape Cod is in Massachusetts. My grandfather's oral history is that his ancestors came to America not on the Mayflower but a ship after that. The first Smith on our shores was Captain John Smith, but he went to Virginia. Since then, Smith is probably the most common name in the United States. Robinson is #16.
I never thought that there would ever be an Abiathar Smith. I thought Smith was simply his mother's maiden name, which is a custom in naming in England. It still must be, but who would have ever thought that an Abiathar would be connected to such a common name as Smith. Abiathar was quite important in the Bible.
"in the Hebrew Bible, son of Ahimelech or Ahijah, High Priest at Nob, the fourth in descent from Eli (1 Sam. 23:6) and the last of Eli's House. The only one of the priests to escape from Saul's massacre, he fled to David at Keilah, taking with him the ephod and other priestly regalies (1 Sam. 22:20 f., 23:6, 9). He was of great service to David, especially at the time of the rebellion of Absalom, his son. ."
My clues are now that Abiathar Smith settled in 1777.
in 1790 he was in Lincoln, Maine
1793 he was in Waldo, Maine at age 77; born in 1716
1800 he was in Hancock, Maine.
1810 he was in Plymouth, Massachusetts
He was in the Revolutionary War.
He was born in 1793.
In 1870 he lived in Waldo, Maine.
He was born in 1849 in St. Lawrence, New York
He was in Massachusetts military
He died in 1872 in Massachusetts
Spouse was Eunice Stewart of Massachusetts
Abiathar Richard Smith was born August 3, 1852 in Worcestershire, England and died August 16, 1909 in Ogden, Utah.
There are 40 Robinsons buried in Waldo, Maine but Captain Micah Robinson is the oldest, born 1782 and died 1859. He's not in my name bank.
Son or daughter was Abiah or Ablah born in 1781 in Granville, Massachusetts.
Son Erastus b abt 1777 in Granville married Sally Burnwell. They had no children listed. However, in looking back, I had found their ancestors.
Abiathar's father was :
1. Daniel Robinson, Captain. b: 1725 in Durham, Connecticut married to Abigail Curtis. I have 13 children listed for him.
2. David Robinson b: 1694 in Guilford, Connecticut. Married to Rebecca Miller. He had 13 children.
3. David Robinson b: 1660 in Gildford, Connecticut married to Abigail Kirby. He had 3 children (1 boy).
4. Thomas Robinson b: 1614 in Surrey, England, married Mary Wells, died in Hartford, Connecticut, had 8 children.
2. Abiathar Robinson b: June 22, 1788 in Foxborough, Norfolk, Massachusetts. Married Nancy Fisher. Died May 2, 1853
I have no children listed to follow.
Mayflower 1620 landed at Plymouth Rock
My grandfather, Frank Hugh Robinson, said his family came on the ship after the Mayflower. I did find a Thomas Robinson age 31 on the Ann & Elizabeth on April 24, 1635. A 2nd check on this and I didn't see it again, but I did find others.
Elizabeth Robinson age 32 came over on the BLESSING in 1635. All the rest I list came in 1635.
Joseph Robinson age 5 may have been with her on the BLESSING.
Katherine Robinson age 12 BLESSING
Mary Robinson age 7 BLESSING
Sarah Robinson age 18 months BLESSING
Nicholas Robinson age 30 on BLESSING. (I have no Nicholas in my name bank of my program. )
Isaac (Isack) Robinson age 15 came over on the HOPEWELL 1635. He may have been Reverend John Robinson's son.
Young Robinsons Working on Ships Bound for Barbados 1635
1. David Robinson age 20 on ship Bonaventure on April 3rd born 1615
2. John Robinson age 19 on ship Bonaventure on April 3rd born 1616
3. Thomas Robinson age 31 on Ann & Elizabeth on April 24 born 1604
4. William Robinson age 16 on Matthew on April 21 born 1619
5. John Robinson age 19 on Expedition on November 20th born 1616
6. Thomas Robinson age 15 on Expedition on November 15th born 1620
7. Leonard Robinson age 20 on Falcon on December 19th born 1615
8. James Robinson age 15 on Falcon on December 25th born 1620
Maybe Abiathar Smith Robinson is from a completely different line of an unknown Robinson I haven't found to work up. Maybe they can connect to James Alton's Maine Robinson line after all. I know we match very few Robinsons so are quite elusive; the last of a line, possibly. Strange that Abiathar could have entered Royalton, a city full of Robinsons, and not be related to any of them!
Resource: http://www.ahgp.org/maine/swan/harbor-island-biographies.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smith_(explorer)
Labels: 1635, Abiathar Smith, John Smith, Maine, Robinson, ships























