Saturday, March 11, 2017
Finding Father of Abiathar Smith Robinson-Two Different Hiram Robinsons to Choose From
Nadene Goldfoot,
daughter of Mildred Elizabeth Robinson,
granddaughter of Abiathar Smith Robinson
I decided to look for THE CORRECT father of Abiathar Smith Robinson, my great grandfather, in cemeteries, so looked next door to Royalton, Vermont's Tunbridge, where Abiathar and Julia Ann Tuller got married. There had to be a reason for that, and I know that the Durkees had a cemetery there named for them. Julia's mother was a Durkee. I used http://findagrave.com for my searches.
We use familytreedna for our DNA testing called familyfinder. I found: that my 1st cousin Robinson has 1525 matches on FTDNA and 140 of them are now marked as coming from his father's genealogy tree. His father was my mother's brother. Family tree shows that my cousin's ancestors were 0.1% of the population of England, 0.1% of the population of Scotland and 0.2% of the population of Ireland. Our DYS 393 allele is a 12 and not a 13, so we are rare Robinsons! And Robinson is the 16th most popular surname, too. In fact, on my tree which shows several possibities of fathers for Abiathar, I find I have 16 Hiram Robinsons! It was a very popular name.
Originally, I thought a Hiram Robinson (1809-1839) married to Sally /Sarah Smith were his parents as they were from Jamaica, Windham County, Vermont and Sally had been a Smith. Sally wound up in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois when she had remarried Thomas Russell in 1841 after Hiram had died. My grandfather, Frank Hugh Robinson, was born in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois, being Abiathar moved there after returned from Canada after the Civil War, so there is this connection as well as SMITH.
The distance between Jamaica and Royalton, Vermont is a N and S direction of 82.5 miles.
Descendants of Hiram Robinson, Jr.
1 Hiram Robinson, Jr. b: March 18, 1809 in Jamaica, Windham County, Vermont d: 1839 in Jamaica, Windham, Vermont
.. +Sally "Sarah" Smith b: January 1812 in Jamaica, Windham County, Vermont d: August 30, 1905 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
. 2 [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 1829 in New York/ Vermont d: October 07, 1904 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
..... +Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: December 02, 1887 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
. *2nd Wife of [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson:
..... +Mary Jane Defenbaugh Walters b: November 1832 in Ohio d: July 05, 1918 in Streator, Bruce Twp, La Salle, Ill
. 2 Oscar L. Robinson b: Abt. 1831 in Jamaica, Vermont d: Bef. 1837
. 2 Riley Robinson b: 1831 in Prob. Jamaica, Windham, Vermont d: Abt. 1865
. 2 Nahum Hial Robinson b: April 03, 1834 in Jamaica, Windham, Vermont d: October 04, 1921 in West Wardsboro, Windham, Vermont
..... +Catherine Lois Vaile b: June 01, 1838 in Winhall, Bennington, Vermont d: December 31, 1920 in West Bardsboro, Windham, Vermont
. 2 Oscar L. Roberson Robinson b: October 17, 1838 in Bennington, Bennington, Vermont d: March 13, 1923 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
..... +Sarah E. Powell b: September 10, 1848 in Green County, New York d: March 12, 1924 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
. 2 Avis Mash Robinson b: October 07, 1839 in Jamaica, Vermont d: March 05, 1932 in Ogden, Weber County, Utah
..... +James Mosher Wright b: September 26, 1832 in Ranssdaer County, New York d: July 29, 1915 in Ogden, Weber County, Utah
UPDATE: 6/4/17: DNA test on male Robinson from this line shows that DYS 393 is a 13. Ours is a 12. This rules them out. Also, their history shows that there was no son named Abiathar Smith Robinson. This is the most conclusive part of information.
A Look At Another Hiram Robinson
Hiram Robinson (1806-1892) from Strafford, Orange, Vermont , is a man I once thought before that he was Abiathar's father, because Tunbridge, where Abiathar and Julia Ann married, is also in Orange County and Strafford is close to Tunbridge. Hiram had been married to Zeruiah Tyler.
Now Hiram and Zeruiah are biblical names. Zeruiah /zəˈruːjə/ (צרויה, sometimes transliterated Tzruya or Zeruya) is a figure in the Hebrew Bible. She was a sister of King David. According to 1 Chronicles 2:13-16 and also the Babylonian Talmud (Shabbat 55), Zeruiah was a daughter of Jesse (sister to Abigail another of Jesse's daughters according to 2 Samuel 17:25). Zeruiah had three sons, Abishai, Joab, and Asahel, all of whom were soldiers in David's army (and also David's nephews). Hiram had been the king of Tyre and was friendly with king David. Abiathar was the son of Abimelech, chief priest at Nob, took refuge with David who later appointed him high priest. I thought it fitting for these two young parents to pick a biblical name.
Hiram and Zeruiah are buried in Stafford Cemetery, Orange County, Vermont, which is the same county that Tunbridge is in. Hiram would have been 23 years old at Abiathar's birth, and Abiathar would have been their 1st child. Zeruiah would have been 21 years old, perfect ages. Hiram would have been 46 years old when Abiathar got married in Tunbridge, next door. Zeruiah would have been 44 years old.
Descendants of HIRAM ROBINSON
Descendants of Hiram Robinson
1 [2] Hiram Robinson b: Bet. December 06, 1805 - 1806 in prob. Strafford, Orange, Vermont d: February 06, 1892 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont
.. +Zeruiah Zeruah A. Tyler b: January 19, 1808 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont d: September 03, 1847 in prob Strafford, Orange, Vermont
. 2 [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 1829 in New York/ Vermont d: October 07, 1904 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
..... +Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: December 02, 1887 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
. *2nd Wife of [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson:
..... +Mary Jane Unknown Walters b: November 1832 in Ohio d: July 1918 in Streator, Illinois, age 85
. 2 [3] Marinda A. Robinson b: 1832 in prob. Strafford, Orange, Vermont
. 2 [4] Daniel Robinson III b: January 03, 1834 in prob. Strafford, Orange, Vermont d: April 02, 1904 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont
..... +[5] Louisa Eloesa A. Fullam b: November 15, 1833 in Vermont d: March 26, 1911 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont
. 2 [6] Emily M. Robinson b: 1841 in prob. Strafford, Orange, Vermont
*2nd Wife of [2] Hiram Robinson:
.. +Abigail George b: October 20, 1815 in Vermont d: February 26, 1901 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont
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daughter of Mildred Elizabeth Robinson,
granddaughter of Abiathar Smith Robinson
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Abiathar Smith Robinson with his son, Frank Hugh Robinson
and Julia Ann Tuller Frank was my grandfather. Somehow, I keep finding a Hiram that is a suitable man to be Abiathar Smith Robinson's father! So far, I have found 2 possibilities; Hiram Robinson of Jamaica, Windham, Vermont who died at age 39, and a Hiram Robinson of Stafford, Orange, Vermont who was very close to Tunbridge, Vermont, neighboring town of Royalton, Windsor, Vermont, where wife Julia Ann Tuller lived.. |
I decided to look for THE CORRECT father of Abiathar Smith Robinson, my great grandfather, in cemeteries, so looked next door to Royalton, Vermont's Tunbridge, where Abiathar and Julia Ann Tuller got married. There had to be a reason for that, and I know that the Durkees had a cemetery there named for them. Julia's mother was a Durkee. I used http://findagrave.com for my searches.
We use familytreedna for our DNA testing called familyfinder. I found: that my 1st cousin Robinson has 1525 matches on FTDNA and 140 of them are now marked as coming from his father's genealogy tree. His father was my mother's brother. Family tree shows that my cousin's ancestors were 0.1% of the population of England, 0.1% of the population of Scotland and 0.2% of the population of Ireland. Our DYS 393 allele is a 12 and not a 13, so we are rare Robinsons! And Robinson is the 16th most popular surname, too. In fact, on my tree which shows several possibities of fathers for Abiathar, I find I have 16 Hiram Robinsons! It was a very popular name.
Originally, I thought a Hiram Robinson (1809-1839) married to Sally /Sarah Smith were his parents as they were from Jamaica, Windham County, Vermont and Sally had been a Smith. Sally wound up in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois when she had remarried Thomas Russell in 1841 after Hiram had died. My grandfather, Frank Hugh Robinson, was born in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois, being Abiathar moved there after returned from Canada after the Civil War, so there is this connection as well as SMITH.
The distance between Jamaica and Royalton, Vermont is a N and S direction of 82.5 miles.
Descendants of Hiram Robinson, Jr.
1 Hiram Robinson, Jr. b: March 18, 1809 in Jamaica, Windham County, Vermont d: 1839 in Jamaica, Windham, Vermont
.. +Sally "Sarah" Smith b: January 1812 in Jamaica, Windham County, Vermont d: August 30, 1905 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
. 2 [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 1829 in New York/ Vermont d: October 07, 1904 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
..... +Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: December 02, 1887 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
. *2nd Wife of [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson:
..... +Mary Jane Defenbaugh Walters b: November 1832 in Ohio d: July 05, 1918 in Streator, Bruce Twp, La Salle, Ill
. 2 Oscar L. Robinson b: Abt. 1831 in Jamaica, Vermont d: Bef. 1837
. 2 Riley Robinson b: 1831 in Prob. Jamaica, Windham, Vermont d: Abt. 1865
. 2 Nahum Hial Robinson b: April 03, 1834 in Jamaica, Windham, Vermont d: October 04, 1921 in West Wardsboro, Windham, Vermont
..... +Catherine Lois Vaile b: June 01, 1838 in Winhall, Bennington, Vermont d: December 31, 1920 in West Bardsboro, Windham, Vermont
. 2 Oscar L. Roberson Robinson b: October 17, 1838 in Bennington, Bennington, Vermont d: March 13, 1923 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
..... +Sarah E. Powell b: September 10, 1848 in Green County, New York d: March 12, 1924 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
. 2 Avis Mash Robinson b: October 07, 1839 in Jamaica, Vermont d: March 05, 1932 in Ogden, Weber County, Utah
..... +James Mosher Wright b: September 26, 1832 in Ranssdaer County, New York d: July 29, 1915 in Ogden, Weber County, Utah
UPDATE: 6/4/17: DNA test on male Robinson from this line shows that DYS 393 is a 13. Ours is a 12. This rules them out. Also, their history shows that there was no son named Abiathar Smith Robinson. This is the most conclusive part of information.
Hiram Robinson (1806-1892) from Strafford, Orange, Vermont , is a man I once thought before that he was Abiathar's father, because Tunbridge, where Abiathar and Julia Ann married, is also in Orange County and Strafford is close to Tunbridge. Hiram had been married to Zeruiah Tyler.
Now Hiram and Zeruiah are biblical names. Zeruiah /zəˈruːjə/ (צרויה, sometimes transliterated Tzruya or Zeruya) is a figure in the Hebrew Bible. She was a sister of King David. According to 1 Chronicles 2:13-16 and also the Babylonian Talmud (Shabbat 55), Zeruiah was a daughter of Jesse (sister to Abigail another of Jesse's daughters according to 2 Samuel 17:25). Zeruiah had three sons, Abishai, Joab, and Asahel, all of whom were soldiers in David's army (and also David's nephews). Hiram had been the king of Tyre and was friendly with king David. Abiathar was the son of Abimelech, chief priest at Nob, took refuge with David who later appointed him high priest. I thought it fitting for these two young parents to pick a biblical name.
Hiram and Zeruiah are buried in Stafford Cemetery, Orange County, Vermont, which is the same county that Tunbridge is in. Hiram would have been 23 years old at Abiathar's birth, and Abiathar would have been their 1st child. Zeruiah would have been 21 years old, perfect ages. Hiram would have been 46 years old when Abiathar got married in Tunbridge, next door. Zeruiah would have been 44 years old.
Robinson Cemetery
From the US Post Office in Strafford village, go north on Brook Road for about 4-1/2 miles. The cemetery appears to be in the center of a large field. I'll need to get directions.Strafford Cemetery
This cemetery is on the north end of Strafford village.Descendants of HIRAM ROBINSON
Descendants of Hiram Robinson
1 [2] Hiram Robinson b: Bet. December 06, 1805 - 1806 in prob. Strafford, Orange, Vermont d: February 06, 1892 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont
.. +Zeruiah Zeruah A. Tyler b: January 19, 1808 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont d: September 03, 1847 in prob Strafford, Orange, Vermont
. 2 [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 1829 in New York/ Vermont d: October 07, 1904 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
..... +Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: December 02, 1887 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
. *2nd Wife of [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson:
..... +Mary Jane Unknown Walters b: November 1832 in Ohio d: July 1918 in Streator, Illinois, age 85
. 2 [3] Marinda A. Robinson b: 1832 in prob. Strafford, Orange, Vermont
. 2 [4] Daniel Robinson III b: January 03, 1834 in prob. Strafford, Orange, Vermont d: April 02, 1904 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont
..... +[5] Louisa Eloesa A. Fullam b: November 15, 1833 in Vermont d: March 26, 1911 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont
. 2 [6] Emily M. Robinson b: 1841 in prob. Strafford, Orange, Vermont
*2nd Wife of [2] Hiram Robinson:
.. +Abigail George b: October 20, 1815 in Vermont d: February 26, 1901 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont
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This line takes us back to: Descendants of George Robinson
1 George Robinson b: 1626 in Glasgow, Scotland or Yorkshire, England, Rehobeth, MA
.. +Joanna Ingraham b: Bet. 1629 - 1633 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts
1. Hiram Robinson's father was:
2. Daniel Jr b: 1769 in Rushville, New York. Abiathar did say he was from New York before he ever showed Vermont. Daniel is a common name found in the bible.
3. Daniel Robinson was his father born in 1734 in Massachusetts. It was Daniel who moved to Strafford, Orange, Vermont. "11/11/14 Strafford, Orange, Vermont: The town of Strafford was created on August 12, 1761 by way of a royal charter which King George III of England issued to Governor Benning Wentworth of New Hampshire. The town was named after the Earl of Strafford.
4. Ebenezer Robinson was his father born in 1697 in Massachusetts
5. Samuel George Robinson was born in 1654 in Massachusetts
His father was 6. George Robinson born in Glasgow, Scotland or Yorkshire, England, Rehobeth, Massachusetts.
I didn't find any Smith connected to this Hiram Robinson of Strafford, VT. However, sometimes people did name for someone they admired or knew.
I didn't find any Smith connected to this Hiram Robinson of Strafford, VT. However, sometimes people did name for someone they admired or knew.
This is interesting as the Y haplogroup of our Robinsons is R-L21 which is distinctive with a DYS 393 =12 and not the usual 13. We match many Irish with this.
I hope my theory of religious first names and being right next door to Royalton, where Julia Ann Tuller was from is correct. I didn't see anyone suitable to be Abiathar's father buried in this town.
Abiathar Smith Robinson and Julia Ann Tuller were married on February 29, 1952 11/11/14 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont by Justice of the Peace, Alva Button.
Julia's mother was Asenath Durkee, and there was a Durkee Cemetery in North Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont with 61 interred there. The Durkees have their own genealogical webpage and send out monthly updates in the form of a newsletter. They're the line that makes Durkees mayonaise and spices.
Julia's mother was Asenath Durkee, and there was a Durkee Cemetery in North Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont with 61 interred there. The Durkees have their own genealogical webpage and send out monthly updates in the form of a newsletter. They're the line that makes Durkees mayonaise and spices.
Asenath is also a biblical name. She was the daughter of Poti- phera, priest of On, wife of Joseph, and mother of Ephraim and Manasseh. The name is Egyptian and apparently connected with the goddess Neith.
The distance between Strafford, Orange, Vermont to Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont is 7.8 miles. "The town of Strafford was created on August 12, 1761 by way of a royal charter which King George III of England issued to Governor Benning Wentworth of New Hampshire. The town was named after the Earl of Strafford." It's 930 feet high, and very cold today at 7 degrees F. Tunbridge is at a lower elevation of 564 feet but at the same temperature today of 7 degrees F. "The town of Tunbridge was created on September 3, 1761, by way of a royal charter which King George III of England issued to Governor Benning Wentworth of New Hampshire."
Tunbridge's population:
So when Abiathar and Julia Ann got married in 1852 in Tunbridge, there were almost 2,000 people living here, but the very next year was the population starting to drop off. People were leaving. From 1861 to 1865, the Civil War between the North and the South raged.
Research: http://wwwrobinsongenealogy.blogspot.com/2014/11/strafford-orange-vermonts-robinson.html
I'm getting forgetful. I wrote this one in 2014, thinking the same thoughts. Interesting to see what I wrote then.
https://www.google.com/#q=Strafford,+Orange,+Vermont&*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunbridge,_Vermont
The distance between Strafford, Orange, Vermont to Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont is 7.8 miles. "The town of Strafford was created on August 12, 1761 by way of a royal charter which King George III of England issued to Governor Benning Wentworth of New Hampshire. The town was named after the Earl of Strafford." It's 930 feet high, and very cold today at 7 degrees F. Tunbridge is at a lower elevation of 564 feet but at the same temperature today of 7 degrees F. "The town of Tunbridge was created on September 3, 1761, by way of a royal charter which King George III of England issued to Governor Benning Wentworth of New Hampshire."
Tunbridge's population:
So when Abiathar and Julia Ann got married in 1852 in Tunbridge, there were almost 2,000 people living here, but the very next year was the population starting to drop off. People were leaving. From 1861 to 1865, the Civil War between the North and the South raged.
| Census | Pop. | %± | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1790 | 487 | — | |
| 1800 | 1,314 | 169.8% | |
| 1810 | 1,640 | 24.8% | |
| 1820 | 2,003 | 22.1% | |
| 1830 | 1,920 | −4.1% | |
| 1840 | 1,811 | −5.7% | |
| 1850 | 1,786 | −1.4% | |
| 1860 |
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I have found one person who matches our testee, my 1st cousin, son of my mother's brother on the 67 allele DNA test. James Robinson's tree ends up with another person. Descendants of JOHN Robynsone ROBINSON, Sr.
1 [1] JOHN Robynsone ROBINSON, Sr. b: February 09, 1611/12 in Meppershall, Bedfordshire, England
.. +Elizabeth Trickley b: 1623 in Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts
*2nd Wife of [1] JOHN Robynsone ROBINSON, Sr.:
.. +Elizabeth PEMBERTON b: Abt. 1623 in Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts
I was able, with the assistance of other trees on ancestry.com, go back further to:
Descendants of Robert Robinson
1 Robert Robinson b: 1465 in Redriff, Surrey, England with this other match from a James Robinson. It still could be that this is where our tree is, also. His family had gone to Maine instead of Vermont.
Research: http://wwwrobinsongenealogy.blogspot.com/2014/11/strafford-orange-vermonts-robinson.html
I'm getting forgetful. I wrote this one in 2014, thinking the same thoughts. Interesting to see what I wrote then.
https://www.google.com/#q=Strafford,+Orange,+Vermont&*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunbridge,_Vermont
Labels: Abiathar Robinson, Hiram Robinson, Jamaica, Julia Ann Tuller, Royalton, Smith, Strafford, Tunbridge, Vermont
Tuesday, November 11, 2014
Strafford, Orange Vermont's Robinson Cemetery Holds Key to Parentage
Nadene Goldfoot
Abiathar Smith Robinson b December 1829 married Julia Ann Tuller of Royalton, Windsor, Vermont in the next door village of Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont on February 29, 1852 when Julia was 18 years old and he was 5 years older. I wondered why Julia married there and not Royalton, where she came from. Abiathar was living in Tunbridge at the time, at least in 1852. I believe the John Robinson, age 51, listed on the 1850 census living with Julia's family, was his father. So this is why. There were other Robinsons living in Tunbridge.
It's been several years since I had investigated, so went back and this time was interested in where people were buried. I found out that the 2 villages were next door, all right, but in 2 different counties. In Orange County there was a Robinson Cemetery, so I went in to find the possible connection of Abiathar's father and home; Strafford, Orange, Vermont, where the Robinson cemetery lay.
From Tunbridge to Strafford, Orange, Vermont is 8.8 miles. Today we can drive it in 22 minutes.
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Abiathar Smith Robinson b December 1829 married Julia Ann Tuller of Royalton, Windsor, Vermont in the next door village of Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont on February 29, 1852 when Julia was 18 years old and he was 5 years older. I wondered why Julia married there and not Royalton, where she came from. Abiathar was living in Tunbridge at the time, at least in 1852. I believe the John Robinson, age 51, listed on the 1850 census living with Julia's family, was his father. So this is why. There were other Robinsons living in Tunbridge.
From Tunbridge to Royalton, Windsor, Vermont is 8.4 miles. Today we drive it in 15 minutes.
In Tunbridge is the Hunt Cemetery and it had only 5 Robinsons listed but had 448 people interred there.
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1. Mary Bicknell Robinson 1802-1867 who was married to a James Robinson 1800, son of David and Martha on 3 January 1825. Inscription read (wife of J Robinson). No tombstone picture. I haven't found him as yet. I may have a David listed in my name bank, but not identified by a wife or marriage date. It's impossible to connect with such sketchy information.
2. Martha Robinson 1827-1874 daughter
3. James T. Robinson 1831-1897 son
4. Mary Ann Robinson 1825-1894 daughter
5. Alma Robinson Noyes 1833-1902 daughter
6.. James Robinson 1836-1878 no clue as to who he is.
7. Susan Robinson Miller 1835-1900, wife of James Miller, no clue to her parents. By the birthdate, she could be another daughter of Mary Bicknell Robinson.
8. Anna Robinson Gates, wife of Jonas Gates, 1769-1841
There was also a Lucia Sleeper nee Durkee 1870-1902. Julia Ann Tuller's mother was Asinith Durkee married to Alonzo Charles Tuller. These Tullers had also gone to Illinois, which is where Abiathar and Julia Ann went and died there. The Durkees was a large and important family, at least much later on when they manufactured Durkee's spices, mayonaise, etc. Lucia was Julia Ann's 6th cousin, and her mother, Asenith Durkee's 5th cousin once removed; remote, but using this same cemetery, so stayed in the area.
There were 10 other Durkees listed in this Cemetery; Alice E. Noyes, 1849-1936; Charles Roswell Durkee 1883-1953; Elmer Foster Durkee 1870-1941; Etta Lynn Durkee Larkin 1871-1943; George Durkee 1907-?; George Whitney Durkee 1843-1931; Marcy Durkee 1796-1814; Mary Gladys Durkee Larkin 1881-1950; Phebe Durkee White b:?-1817; Sarah Durkee b?-1843.
Robinson Cemetery in Strafford, Orange, Vermont
In Orange County, Vermont is Strafford, Vermont which is also listed on findagrave in the listings along with HUNT CEMETERY , so I investigated and found ROBINSON CEMETERY, so naturally I investigated. It held 185 people, not all Robinsons.
There were 3 Durkees, 12 Fay, 9 Mosher, 17 Ordway, and 24 Robinsons. These were just some of the surnames that caught my eye. There were many other interesting ones, but there were no Smiths in this Robinson Cemetery. We have a DNA Y haplogroup match with Dyer, and there is one Dyer in the Robinson Cemetery and that is George Lee Dyer b: November 24, 1905 on Thanksgiving Day in Stafford, and buried May 29, 1976 in Stafford, Orange, Vermont.
The last Robinson on the list was Zeruiah A. Tyler Robinson married to Hiram Robinson, and now I feel that they are Abiathar Smith's parents. Their names are from a list I just found yesterday from a Descendants of William Robinson listing. Hiram was on my list, just barely without a wife. I have him listed as the son of Daniel Robinson and Betsy Buell. They are both buried in this Robinson Cemetery and Daniel had moved to Stafford from Rushville, Yates, New York while Zeruiah was born in Connecticut.
King David connects the names of Zeruiah and Abiathar
Look at the names. Zeruiah is from the Old Testament or Torah. sometime transliterated Tzruya or Zeruya) is a character in the Hebrew Bible. She was the older sister of King David. According to the Babylonian Talmud (Shabbat 55) Zeruiah was daughter of Jesse (that called Nahash in another verse). Zeruiah had three sons, Abishai, Joab, and Asahel, all of whom were soldiers in David's army.
Very little is told of her. However, her sons are invariably mentioned with the matronymic "son of Zeruiah", in marked contrast to most other Biblical characters (and people in many other cultures) who are known by a patronymic. This seems to indicate that she was an exceptionally strong or important woman, though the specific circumstances are not given. Her name is used—though not very frequently—as a female given name in contemporary Israel (see Tzruya Lahav, Zeruya Shalev). It would be like her to name a son Abiathar, both names from the Bible and connecting to King David.
Abiathar is in the Hebrew Bible, Torah (Old Testament) son of Ahimelech or Ahijah, High Priest at Nob, the fourth in descent from Eli (1 Sam. 23:6) and the last of Eli's House. The only one of the priests to escape from Saul's massacre, he fled to David at Keilah, taking with him the ephod and other priestly regalies (1 Sam. 22:20 f., 23:6, 9). He was of great service to David, especially at the time of the rebellion of Absalom.
Descendants of Hiram Robinson:
1 Hiram Robinson b: December 06, 1806 in prob. Strafford, Orange, Vermont
.. +Zeruiah A. Tyler b: January 19, 1808 in prob Strafford, Orange, Vermont
. 2 Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 1829 in New York/ Strafford, Orange, Vermont
..... +Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont
. *2nd Wife of Abiathar Smith Robinson:
..... +Mary Jane Unknown Walters b: November 1832 in Ohio
. 2 [1] Marinda A. Robinson b: 1832 in prob. Strafford, Orange, Vermont
. 2 [2] Daniel Robinson III b: January 1834 in prob. Strafford, Orange, Vermont
..... +[3] Louisa Eloesa A. Fullam b: November 15, 1833 in Vermont
. 2 [4] Emily M. Robinson b: 1841 in prob. Strafford, Orange, Vermont
*2nd Wife of Hiram Robinson:
.. +Abigail George b: October 20, 1815 in Vermont
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With the line I have found, we now go back to find our ancestor:
1. Abiathar Smith Robinson 1829 Strafford, Orange, Vermont--Julia Ann Tuller/Tullar
2. Hiram Robinson 1806 Strafford, Orange, Vermont--Zeruiah Tyler
3. Daniel Robinson 1769 Rushville, Yates, New York--Betsy Buell
4. Daniel Robinson 1735-1820 --Lucretia Pierce
5. Ebenezer Robinson 1697 Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts --Elizabeth Read/Reed
6. Samuel George Robinson 1654 Rehoboth, Massachusetts--Mehitable Read/Reed
7. George Robinson 1626 Glasgow, Scotland or Yorkshire, England--Johanna Ingraham
How did I ever wind up with a Scotsman when our DNA haplogroup matches Irish people? We have a haplogroup match with James Alton Robinson in Maine who ended up with Meppershall, England. Earlier, I worked very hard to connect to Meppershall, but am not sure about the parents. So I do have one route to get there.
The problem is that 1850 census in the USA is the earliest one with both male and female names on it. 1840 only lists the head of the family, a man in most all cases, and the rest of the family are tally marks under a heading of sex and ages. How anyone can go back into time with this information is most difficult. It's where we get into trouble. So, both James and I may have erred along the way, unless there is other evidence.
Our oral history from my grandfather was that our ancestor (?) came over not on the Mayflower of 1620 but the one after that, so winding up in Rehoboth, Massachusetts is good. I've checked with the John Robinson connection of John Robinson, Reverend who sent the Pilgrims over from Holland, and we're not of the same haplogroup as they are. In fact, I just found out that James and I have no other matching haplogroups in the group of R1s. so we're pretty rare. Reverend John never made it to America but his son, Isaac, did come over and they have a huge tree.
Update: 11/11/14: I asked today when our familyfinder results would be in as it has been 6 weeks; just got the reply-it failed quality control and is rerunning. No idea when I'll get results now. The company was off for Veteran's Day earlier.
Update: 3/11/17: Our Robinson line's Y haplogroup is now called R-L21. It was the old R1b1a2a1a1b4.
It's unusual in that the DYS 393, the first allele listed in the test, is a 12 instead of the usual 13. He's had the 67 alleles tested. Those who also are DYS393=12 represent less than 3/10s of 1%. That is an extremely small proportion.
"It looks like DYS393=12 may indicate an R1b3 man descended from an eastern branch (Turkey, Armenia, Iraq) of that haplogroup, and that DYS393=13 seen in R1b3 men descended from the western European branch.
Resource: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegalstrongs/dnareivers.htm
PS, just joined or rejoined the Border-Reivers Group Study again, one group with listed people with DYS 393 as a 12. I hope someone is still managing this group.
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Labels: Abiathar Smith Robinson, Hiram Robinson, Hunt Cemetery, Orange, Robinson Cemetery, Royalton, Strafford, Tunbridge, Vermont, Windsor, Zeruiah Tyler
Friday, December 31, 2010
Discovery of Hiram Robinson's Missing Son
I had figured out that a Hiram Robinson born 1799 in Royalton, Vermont could have been the father of my ggrandfather, Abiathar Smith Robinson. I hoped Abiathar had also been from Royalton being he married Julia Ann Tuller who was born in Royalton. They went over the county line to Tunbridge to marry in 1852, which was just a few miles away.
Hiram's 1840 census showed that he had a son that wasn't on the known list of his children. It would have fit the year Abiathar was born. What I did was check out Robinsons from Royalton, and Hiram was most interesting. He was married to Almira Morgan, whose father was the famous Justin Morgan, who started the Morgan horses. He's so famous that his tombstone is in the museum in Randolph, Orange, Vermont.
I contacted the Historical Society of Sandy Creek, Oswego, New York where many of this family had been living. They answered immediately with three pieces of printed information from January 19, 1928 in which Hiram's grandson, Charles H. Robinson had sent in information about his grandparents and their children.
The missing child's name was Albert, not Abiathar. So close and yet not the brass ring. I wondered if this grandson was going by his memory or if he had a bible with the name written in it. The child could have had the birthday of Abiathar being which was December 1829.
The surprising thing is that another son of Hiram's is also Justin Morgan, Jr. who married Sarah "Sally" Durkee who is really my 3rd cousin 5X removed. This Justin died in Stockbridge, Windsor, VT which is cattycorner from Royalton, VT south and west of it.
I printed out information from Tunbridge, VT about their cemeteries and found they have a Durkee Cemetery used from 1812 to 1981. Now I know for sure that I must visit this place where so many of my ancestors were. Alva Button married my Abiathar and Julia and they have a Button Cemetery used from 1780 to today. They also have a Hutchinson used from 1788 to 1923 and we have Hutchinsons on the tree.
Abiathar was born in 1829, so looking at the population in Tunbridge in 1830, I see they had 1,920 people. Royalton had 1,893. One of these men could have been the father I'm looking for.
Resource: Sketches from Charles H. Robinson January 19, 1928 from Sandy Creek Historian
Hiram's 1840 census showed that he had a son that wasn't on the known list of his children. It would have fit the year Abiathar was born. What I did was check out Robinsons from Royalton, and Hiram was most interesting. He was married to Almira Morgan, whose father was the famous Justin Morgan, who started the Morgan horses. He's so famous that his tombstone is in the museum in Randolph, Orange, Vermont.
I contacted the Historical Society of Sandy Creek, Oswego, New York where many of this family had been living. They answered immediately with three pieces of printed information from January 19, 1928 in which Hiram's grandson, Charles H. Robinson had sent in information about his grandparents and their children.
The missing child's name was Albert, not Abiathar. So close and yet not the brass ring. I wondered if this grandson was going by his memory or if he had a bible with the name written in it. The child could have had the birthday of Abiathar being which was December 1829.
The surprising thing is that another son of Hiram's is also Justin Morgan, Jr. who married Sarah "Sally" Durkee who is really my 3rd cousin 5X removed. This Justin died in Stockbridge, Windsor, VT which is cattycorner from Royalton, VT south and west of it.
I printed out information from Tunbridge, VT about their cemeteries and found they have a Durkee Cemetery used from 1812 to 1981. Now I know for sure that I must visit this place where so many of my ancestors were. Alva Button married my Abiathar and Julia and they have a Button Cemetery used from 1780 to today. They also have a Hutchinson used from 1788 to 1923 and we have Hutchinsons on the tree.
Abiathar was born in 1829, so looking at the population in Tunbridge in 1830, I see they had 1,920 people. Royalton had 1,893. One of these men could have been the father I'm looking for.
Resource: Sketches from Charles H. Robinson January 19, 1928 from Sandy Creek Historian
Labels: Durkee, from Left: Frank Hugh and father Abiathar Smith Robinson, Hiram Robinson, History of Royalton, Vermont
Saturday, December 25, 2010
Hiram Robinson in Vermont, Possible Father of Abiathar
This is a picture of a Robinson family reunion at the Pacific Ocean. MIldred Goldfoot nee Robinson is sitting in the wheel chair. Her brother's family is making up most of the people in the picture.
There is a Hiram Robinson born on August 12, 1799 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont, a key city to our genealogy. He was married to Almira Morgan of the famous Morgan horses. I looked at the 1840 census and also on the 1850 and 1860 census in Sandy Creek, Oswego, New York where I found him and he had listed a son age 10-14..My ggrandfather, Abiathar Smith Robinson, fits in this category and would have been 11 years old. There were 11 in the family; 8 children and Hiram and wife Almira and one of their mothers. Of the children, 7 were boys and 1 was a girl.
My grandfather, Frank Hugh Robinson, was very very partial to his horse that was kept in the field. On the Sabbath Frank found that the bull was in the field with his horse and he was petrified. He had to get them separated. Abiathar was extremely strict about the sabbath and wouldn't let Frank rescue his horse. I'm wondering if they also were raising Morgan thoroughbreds. At any rate, the horse was killed by the bull and Grandpa ran away from home. He was then about 16 years old, and never returned.
Frank always was good with horses. In Portland, Oregon, where he eventually lived after being born in Wenona, Illinois, he had a team of 4 horses and went to the docks, transporting boxes in his wagon. He was even the secretary of his Teamsters Union, and Mom said that he had the most beautiful handwriting. He even knew my other grandfather, Russian-born Nathan Goldfoot with one horse hitched to his wagon. Frank saw that Nathan was having a difficult time with that one horse, which eventually threw Nathan out of his wagon, and he hit his head, landed in the St. Vincent's Hospital where he never regained consiousness. Evidently being a teamster was not an easy job, requiring years of experience dealing with horses.
I'm hoping that Hiram is our ancestor. He was the son of Amos Robinson, Jr of Connecticut who died in Decatur, Macon, Illinois and his 2nd wife, Elizabeth "Betsey" Hughes. Now this maiden name of Hughes is a giveaway. Frank's full name is Frank Hugh Robinson! It could be in rememberance of the grandmother that they used the name Hugh. I hope so! Also, when Abiathar was asked where he was born, he sometimes said New York, and then finally, Vermont. He did marry Julia Ann Tuller of Royalton, Vermont in 1852 in Tunbridge, a stone's throw away. He must have had relatives in the two towns, or at least one of them by then. Otherwise, why was he courting in Royalton?
Also, this would definitely connect my line with that of Susan Dudra and Kay Robinson, two other genealogist of the Robinson family tree. That would be fantastic.
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| Morgan horse is the symbol for Vermont |
My grandfather, Frank Hugh Robinson, was very very partial to his horse that was kept in the field. On the Sabbath Frank found that the bull was in the field with his horse and he was petrified. He had to get them separated. Abiathar was extremely strict about the sabbath and wouldn't let Frank rescue his horse. I'm wondering if they also were raising Morgan thoroughbreds. At any rate, the horse was killed by the bull and Grandpa ran away from home. He was then about 16 years old, and never returned.
Frank always was good with horses. In Portland, Oregon, where he eventually lived after being born in Wenona, Illinois, he had a team of 4 horses and went to the docks, transporting boxes in his wagon. He was even the secretary of his Teamsters Union, and Mom said that he had the most beautiful handwriting. He even knew my other grandfather, Russian-born Nathan Goldfoot with one horse hitched to his wagon. Frank saw that Nathan was having a difficult time with that one horse, which eventually threw Nathan out of his wagon, and he hit his head, landed in the St. Vincent's Hospital where he never regained consiousness. Evidently being a teamster was not an easy job, requiring years of experience dealing with horses.
I'm hoping that Hiram is our ancestor. He was the son of Amos Robinson, Jr of Connecticut who died in Decatur, Macon, Illinois and his 2nd wife, Elizabeth "Betsey" Hughes. Now this maiden name of Hughes is a giveaway. Frank's full name is Frank Hugh Robinson! It could be in rememberance of the grandmother that they used the name Hugh. I hope so! Also, when Abiathar was asked where he was born, he sometimes said New York, and then finally, Vermont. He did marry Julia Ann Tuller of Royalton, Vermont in 1852 in Tunbridge, a stone's throw away. He must have had relatives in the two towns, or at least one of them by then. Otherwise, why was he courting in Royalton?
Also, this would definitely connect my line with that of Susan Dudra and Kay Robinson, two other genealogist of the Robinson family tree. That would be fantastic.
I have found out that Sandy Creek is still a little village.It was incorporated on September 4, 1878. I sent an email to the historian@sandycreekny.us today asking about the Robinsons. In the Barnard cemetery are L. Meigs, Muzz, Chapin and Clark; names on my tree.
Labels: Abiather Robinson, Almira Morgan, Hiram Robinson, NY, Royalton, Sandy Creek, Vermont
