Robinson Genealogy

 Nadene Goldfoot                                         

It is October, 2022.  I've been working on this forever.  I've changed my mind at least 100 times, but finally am settling on who Abiathar Smith Robinson's line comes from.  .   His mother had to be Lois Safford.    Here's how I decided, see below the pictures:  

A younger Abiathar Smith Robinson from cousin Tom whose mother was Leola Marie Robinson and her father was Arthur Roy Robinson, also son of Abiathar Smith Robinson.  Arthur wass 10 years younger than our grandfather, Frank Hugh.  

Our grandfather is Frank Hugh Robinson, the older one and the one on the right could be his youngest brother, Arthur Roy Robinson, born in 1880.   

I believe that Abiathar's father was Amos Robinson, IV.                    

        1  [1] AMOS IV ROBINSON b: December 28, 1797 in Royalton, Windsor County, Vermont/Barnard, VT d: August 07, 1871 in Menasha, Wisc-hit by lightening while helping another farmer-hay caused it Age at death: 73

. +Betsey Davis b: 1795 in Royalton, Vermont d: September 15, 1824 in Brownell house, Broad Brook,  Royalton, Vermont age 23 m: December 10, 1821 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont Age at death: 29 est. m: December 10, 1821 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont

*2nd Wife of [1] AMOS IV ROBINSON:

. +LOIS Louisa SAFFORD b: December 04, 1800 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: September 14, 1880 in Menasha, Winnebago, Wisconsin m: June 09, 1825 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont Age at death: 79 m: June 09, 1825 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont

My 1st cousin took 67 allele test, then  the Big Y Test, paid for by the Fitzpatrick Irish group, because we matched their people, giving us Irish origins with some unknown cousin, and it showed that we we had 2 other matches on FTDNA at that Big Y state; Robert Robinson b:1465-d: 1510 who was already listed on my tree;  and Ralph Dyer of England, of which I had the present Dyer already listed on my tree.  This Robert Robinson was the result of my first inclination of the correct ancesto, a perfect match to Dyer and a perfect match to the Irish Fitzpatricks.  Grandpa Frank had told us his ancestors were from Wales which could have been true, though going deeper, they came from Ireland.  A war had been going on between Ireland and England and things do get messy.     

I followed Robert's descendants through the tree and it led to, surprises of all surprises, to my original hunch, Amos Robinson IV b: 1797 in Royalton, Vermont and his wife, Lois or Louisa Safford, also of Royalton.  Our ggrandfather, Abiathar Smith Robinson, was married to Julia Ann Tuller of Royalton.  Abiathar was never on any written papers being the son of Amos.  That's why it was so hard to find his father.  Abiathar was left out of any written history.  All I could find out was that he was born on December 7, 1829 which is probably why he wasn't listed, being born with snow most likely in December in Royalton or nearby. 

Heaven help me if I change my mind.  This messes up my other female DNA connections, but they must connect somewhere along the way somehow.  It's just that this Big Y test result is BIG and Important. There are a million Robinsons from New England, and only 3 tested with this DNA.  It's quite rare.  Before the Big Y test, we knew it to be called R-M269.  I had tested it past the 67 allele test headed for more, but the Big Y is the end of the line, at least for now.  

Now I'll have to go back and see what I can do with cousins already found that are not connected to this line---yet.  There are names that are the same, though, another fact that is most confusing.  

Back to Royalton, Windsor County, Vermont !  When I first started this research, I took out a book at the library on Royalton, Vermont descendants, and that's where I got a lot of my information.  It was special, on the inter-state loan section behind the desks.  History of Royalton, Vermont: With Family Genealogies, 1769-1911 - Mary Evelyn Wood Lovejoy - Google Books.

My gosh!  Doing a search, I found a kinetic metal sculptor by the name of Amos Robinson!  Could he be related?

Royalton is in Windsor County, bottom in blue.  

Update; 10/10/22 An additional point is that I have DNA cousins found and thought the connection was from Bakersfield, Franklin, Vermont.  Bakersfield is only 81 miles from Royalton, Windsor, Vermont;  and today it would take only 1 hour and 34 minutes to drive the distance on I-89 North.  So it is possible to still find the connection between the  female twins Sherie and Cheryl Lynn, 2nd-4th cousins and Cheryl, a 3rd cousin once Removed.  The irony here is that my 1st cousin is Charlotte Carol that we call Sherie.  There's got to be a Charlotte or Sheryl in our genealogy that connects these 2 families with us besides the surname of Robinson.  

Ggrandfather Abiathar Smith Robinsons father, Amos Robinson IV, was born in Royalton in 1797, died in 1871 in Wisconsin.  He was married to Lois Safford and Betsey Davis.  

Amos's father was Amos Robinson III, born in Connecticut and died in Illinois.  He was married to Lavina Bullock and Elizabeth Hughes.  

Amos's father was Amos Benton, II, born in Massachusetts and died in New Hampshire.  He was married to Deborah Hyde, and a Lydia and an Anna.  Deborah was b: CT and d: Hartford, Windsor, Vermont.

Amos Benton Robinson's father was Amos Robinson, Sr. born in Massachusetts and died in Massachusetts.  His wife was Priscilla Lake and Lydia Wentworth.  

My female DNA matches with Robinson on their tree had a mother, Diane M possibly of Rhode Island. (I have a 1st cousin, Diane Robinson).  Their grandparents were a Richard David and a Lillian of Massachusetts, but our connection seems to be closer than that.  

Their ggrandparents, Arthur David,  are from Bakersfield, Vermont and Massachusetts. Arthur David's wife was Rebecca.  His father was David, son of a Jacob Robinson, and there are a million Jacob Robinsons in New England.  David was married to Rosina.  

Cherie's connection  were from Washington and Canada.  Her father was from Kansas and mother from Minnesota.  Her grandparents were from New Hampshire but buried in Bakersfield, and a New York, New Hampshire connection.  There's Bakersfield that connect these 3 ladies, but not necessarily me.  

Resource:

My Robinson family tree

https://amosrobinson.com/about/

https://www.fitzpatrickclan.org/

Labels: Abiathar Smith Robinson, DNA Big Y Test, Fitzpatrick, Frank Hugh Robinson, Robinson, Royalton, Vermont, Windsor

# posted by Nadene Goldfoot @ 9:49 PM 0 comments

 Nadene Goldfoot                                              

Grandpa Frank Hugh Robinson said his people came from Wales, but he was just a kid of 16 when he had left home, and could have had his memories confused.  He told us that his ancestors weren't on the Mayflower of 1620 but the ship after that one.  Do you know who was on the next ship which could have been the fleet that came over from England in 1630?  It was Isaac Robinson, son of the Preacher, John Robinson who sent all the Pilgrims over to this new country of America.  John had stayed with his flock in Holland.  His son came over and helped to establish Robinsons all over New England.  Other Robinsons came over, too, and one of them might have been our ancestor.  We need more Robinsons to test their DNA.  Now I find that our deep ancestry from the Big Y test shows a connection to the Irish Fitzpatricks.  

One thing I had previously discovered was that our Robinsons were Normans.  Who were they?  Norman, member of those Vikings, or Norsemen, who settled in northern France (or the Frankish kingdom), together with their descendants. The Normans founded the duchy of Normandy and sent out expeditions of conquest and colonization to southern Italy and Sicily and to England, Wales, Scotland, and Ireland.

Oh my gosh, Grandpa Frank was right!  In spring of 1169, a small band of Normans set sail from South Wales bound for Ireland, landing in May of that same year. This was a watershed moment in Ireland’s history, marking the beginning of direct English, then British, involvement in Irish affairs – so much so that the Norman invasion of Ireland might even be considered a deep root of Britain’s ‘Irish Problem’.  Robert FitzStephen’s arrival in Ireland at Bannow on 1 May 1169 was highlighted with his burning his own boats. It was a gesture of commitment to the ensuing conquest.

From the 12th century onwards, a group of Normans (which could include our Robinson line)  invaded and settled in Gaelic Ireland. These settlers later became known as Norman Irish or Hiberno-Normans. They originated mainly among Anglo-Norman from England and Cambro-Norman families in Wales, who were loyal to the Kingdom of England, and the English state supported their claims to territory in the various realms then comprising Ireland. 

During the High Middle Ages and Late Middle Ages the Hiberno-Normans constituted a feudal aristocracy and merchant oligarchy, known as the Lordship of Ireland. In Ireland, the Normans were also closely associated with the Gregorian Reform of the Catholic Church in Ireland. Over time the descendants of the 12th-century Norman settlers spread throughout Ireland and around the world, as part of the Irish diaspora; they ceased, in most cases, to identify as Norman, Cambro-Norman or Anglo-Norman.

The dominance of the Norman Irish declined during the 17th century, after a new English Protestant elite settled in Ireland during the Tudor period. Some of the Norman Irish—often known as The Old English—had become Gaelicised by merging culturally and intermarrying with the Gaels, under the denominator of "Irish Catholic". Conversely, some Hiberno-Normans assimilated into the new English Protestant elite, as the Anglo-Irish.  Our Grandpa was a protestant. 

Some of the most prominent Norman families were the FitzMaurices, FitzGeralds, Burkes, Butlers and Wall family. One of the most common Irish surnames, Walsh, derives from the Normans based in Wales who arrived in Ireland as part of this group.

Fitzpatrick  originated in Ireland and is unique in that it is the only native Gaelic name with the prefix Fitz. ... In the 12th century, the Normans invaded Ireland and many powerful families were forced to give up their land. The name Mac Giolla Phádraig became Anglicised to Fitzpatrick.

All other names with the prefix Fitz are of Norman origin, and in these cases the Fitz means ‘the bastard son of’.

The prolonged  English Tudor conquest of Ireland lasting from 1534 to 1603 was when Henry VIII proclaimed himself King of Ireland in 1541 to facilitate the project. Ireland became a potential battleground in the wars between Catholic Counter-Reformation and Protestant Reformation Europe.  Henry allowed the Fitzpatricks to keep much of their territory and in 1541, Brian Fitzpatrick was given the title Baron Upper Ossory, a position that came with a seat in the Irish House of Lords.  The Fitzpatricks held their position of relative power in Ireland under the British rule for around a century, until they lost most of their territory due to their support of James II.   When the dynasty was destroyed, members of the Fitzpatrick family spread across Ireland and integrated into communities all across the country.

England's attempts to either conquer or assimilate both the Hiberno-Norman lordships and the Gaelic territories into the Kingdom of Ireland provided the impetus for ongoing warfare, notable examples being the 1st Desmond Rebellion, the 2nd Desmond Rebellion and the Nine Years War. This period was marked by the Crown policies of, at first, surrender and regrant, and later, plantation, involving the arrival of thousands of English and Scottish Protestant settlers, and the displacement of both the Hiberno-Normans (or Old English as they were known by then) and the native Catholic landholders. Gaelic Ireland was finally defeated at the battle of Kinsale in 1601 which marked the collapse of the Gaelic system and the beginning of Ireland's history as part of the British Empire.

Dr. Mike Fitzpatrick has found that "This DNA evidence points to the probable Norman roots of the most documented of all Fitzpatrick septs, challenging the long held beliefs they descend from the ancient Giolla Phádraig dynasts. Alternative theories, that Ossory Fitzpatrick may have Viking or 'isolated Irish-Gael' origins are not implausible but lack evidence, since ancestors of A1488 appear neither Viking nor Irish, rather their origins are in Wales, England and Scotland.  The recently uncovered clerical lineages of Mac Giolla Phádraig Osraí form part of the conversation in the article, Mac Giolla Phádraig Osraí 1384-1534 AD, Part II, it is considered certain that many A1488 Fitzpatricks descend from clerics, such as William Mac Giolla Phádraig or John MacCostigan (alias Mac Giolla Phádraig), who has close associations with Norman frontier families such as the Butlers, Purcells, and Archdekins."

The big Y test done with Family Tree DNA shows that we are connected through our Robinson family line of my mother's male line of Robinson to the Irish Fitzpatrick line.  The oral history was that Grandpa family way back had come from Wales and had taken not the Mayflower to get here but the ship after that. Grandpa had run away from home at about the age of 15 because of an over-zealous father who wouldn't let him move his horse out of the pasture that the bull had invaded and this took place on a Sunday.  Evidently the horse was harmed or killed.  So, Grandpa Frank Hugh Robinson born in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois with a father from Royalton, Windsor, Vermont and thereabouts, all my DNA testing is due to my questions about Mom's family.  Who knew  that they started off someplace in Ireland?  Our Y title is R-FT111213, now much longer than the R-L21 before the Big Y DNA test or the original test showing R1b1a2a1a1b4.  I do believe that our ggrandfather, Abiathar Smith Robinson's father had to have been Amos Robinson IV of Royalton, Vermont and mother to have been his wife, Lois Safford, also of Royalton.  Due to a lack of a paper trail, I've never been sure about it.  I still could be wrong.  I need more Robinson DNA from other Robinson men.  

Incidentally, towns and cities of South Wales-possibly our origins before Ireland:

• Cardiff (Glamorgan) - the capital of Wales.  southern end
• Newport (Monmouthshire) - Wales' third-largest city.
• Swansea (Glamorgan) - Wales' city by the sea and second-largest urban center - spectacular sandy beaches.
• St Davids (Pembrokeshire) - Britain's smallest city and home to Wales' most important cathedral.              
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• Now here's the corker.  Great grandfather Abiathar Smith Robinson b: 1829 married Julia Ann Tuller of Royalton, Vermont and was the great grandson of Amos Benton Robinson (1734) and Deborah Hyde (1734).   Deborah Hyde was connected to Anne Hyde (b:1637) who married King James Ii of England  in 1660.                              

Resource:

https://wwwrobinsongenealogy.blogspot.com/2019/12/possible-connection-of-clans-between.html

https://wwwrobinsongenealogy.blogspot.com/2015/11/connecting-to-king-james-ii-and-his.html

https://www.military-history.org/feature/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-the-norman-conquest-of-ireland.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ireland#:~:text=On%201%20January%201801%2C%20in,the%20Acts%20of%20Union%201800.

https://ireland-calling.com/irish-names-fitzpatrick/#:~:text=It%20originated%20in%20Ireland%20and,name%20with%20the%20prefix%20Fitz.&text=In%20the%2012th%20century%2C%20the,Ph%C3%A1draig%20became%20Anglicised%20to%20Fitzpatrick.

https://www.fitzpatrickclan.org/

Labels: Fitzpatrick, Frank Hugh Robinson, Henry VIII, Irish, Normans, Robinson

# posted by Nadene Goldfoot @ 11:31 AM 0 comments

Nadene Goldfoot                                        

                                                                     
Four of our Robinson family members have had the autosomal DNA test at FTDNA which is the familyfinder test in Houston, Texas. This is from Frank Hugh Robinson b: 1870 in Wenona, Illinois who moved to Hillsboro, Oregon.  Frank was the grandfather of Kenneth, David and Nadene.  He was Steve's great grandfather.   It showed that:

Kenneth Robinson matched his 1st cousins, David                   with 929.99cMs.
                                                                  Nadene                with 957.07cMs
   with Nadene's son, a 1st cousin once removed  Steve          with 641.43cMs.
                                                                             

New England, where these Robinsons lived, last being Vermont.  The oral history is that the ancestor came over on a ship after the Mayflower.  That would have been about 1630 one possibly in that fleet from England

                                                                       

Autosomal DNA

One may be able to find a Stewart cousin via genealogical research or via anautosomal test (e.g., Family Finder) of one's own DNA. Identifying the common ancestor of distantly related cousins via shared autosomal DNA segments can be frustrating. Cousins may or may not inherit enough of the same DNA to show that they have a common ancestor.

• A child randomly receives half of his autosomal DNA from his mother and half from his father.
• First Cousins may inherit a quarter of their DNA from one of their common grandparents.
• Second Cousins may inherit an eighth of their DNA from their common great-Gparents.
• Third Cousins may inherit a sixteenth of their DNA from their common ggGparents.
• Fourth Cousins may inherit a 32nd of their DNA from their common gggGparents.
• Fifth Cousins may inherit a 64th of their DNA from their common ggggGparents.
• Sixth Cousins may inherit 128th of their DNA from their common gggggGparents - segments of DNA become so small at this level and beyond that accurate comparisons may not be possible.

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Stuart

Labels: autosomal test, familyfinder, Frank Hugh Robinson

# posted by Nadene Goldfoot @ 4:28 PM 1 comments

The first Robinson picture I have is that of Abiathar Smith Robinson (b: December 1829 in Royalton or Tunbridge, Vermont (?) or New York -d: October 7, 1904 Wenona, Marshall, Illinois) , my great grandfather, father of Frank Hugh Robinson who was the  9th of 11 children,  my grandfather.   This picture came to me from Tom Mead, cousin from the 11th child, Arthur Roy Robinson.  Abiathar's children were: Rix, Edgar Clyde, Edward, Nellie Elizabeth, Emma Hattie, John C, Julia, William, Frank Hugh,  Minnie J, and Arthur Roy.  It shows a receding hairline of dark hair and blue eyes, and long face.
                                                                               

            This next one is of Abiathar when he was a little older with Frank Hugh, his son and my grandfather.  Frank is sitting on a bale of hay.                                                                

Labels: Abiathar Smith Robinson, Frank Hugh Robinson, Illlinois, Royalton, Tunbridge, Vermont, Wenona

# posted by Nadene Goldfoot @ 9:40 AM 1 comments