Saturday, June 20, 2020
Triangulation Findings of Common Ancestor Jonathan Robinson b: 1645
Nadene Goldfoot
More DNA evidence about the male line of our ggrandfather, Abiathar Smith Robinson b: 1829 in ? who died in Illinois shows that his father could have been James Robinson b: 24 January 1777 in Brentwood, Rockingham, New Hampshire and died in Mt. Vernon, Kennebec, Maine. He was married to Phebe Sherbourne. They were both buried in the Robinson Cemetery.
The reason I think this is that it's part of a line belonging to a very close match of his, another James Robinson, as a matter of fact, of Maine and another Robinson who also follows his tree. In this family, Abiathar could have been one of 10 siblings, and had ridden off to Vermont when about 20 years old.
Or somewhere along this family line of Robinsons, our line connects with the same Y haplogroup DNA.
With this Y match, James Robinson, and the other Robinson join us in triangulating with a Jonathan Robinson born in 1645 in Massachusetts. Jonathan was married to Sarah Elizabeth Scribner born in 1649 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire.
This was just verified by Tim Fitzpatrick of the Fitzpatrick group on FTDNA, because all 3 show we also have Irish genes of the Fitzpatrick line. This was not found by our genealogy findings, but by DNA matchings. Amazing, isn't it? It doesn't mean that we share any segments of DNA on our 23 chromosomes, either as a different test would show.
By 1790 there were 1,722 people in Exeter. Rockingham, New Hampshire, where Jonathan Robinson died. Exeter suffered its last Indian raid in August 1723 and by 1725 the tribes had left the area. In 1774 the rebellious Provincial Congress began to meet in the Exeter Town House after Colonial Governor John Wentworth banned it from the colonial capitol at Portsmouth. In July 1775, the Provincial Congress had the provincial records seized from royal officials in Portsmouth and brought to Exeter as well. And so Exeter became New Hampshire's American Revolutionary War capital, an honor it held for 14 years until Concord assumed the role. He died at age 82.
Rockingham County, New Hampshire History - Genealogy
1 [7] JONATHAN ROBINSON b: May 16, 1645 in Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts d: September 1727 in Exeter, Rockingham, NH
. +Sarah Elizabeth Cram Scribner b: 1649 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: 1690 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: Bet. 1670 - 1671 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 [1] John Robinson III b: September 07, 1671 in Exeter, Rockingham, NH d: Bef. July 07, 1755 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +[6] Mehitable Stanyan b: January 01, 1675/76 in Hampton, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: July 07, 1749 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: Abt. 1715 in Exeter, New Hampshire
.... *2nd Wife of [1] John Robinson III:
........ +Elizabeth Folsom b: Abt. 1671 m: February 01, 1725/26
.... 2 Sarah Robinson b: October 29, 1673
.... 2 Hester Esther Robinson b: August 12, 1677 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 [2] Elizabeth Robinson b: September 06, 1679 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Abraham Folsom b: Abt. 1679
.... *2nd Husband of [2] Elizabeth Robinson:
........ +James Runlett Rundlett b: Abt. 1679 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: June 1724 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: November 21, 1699 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 [3] JONATHAN ROBINSON b: July 09, 1681 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: May 11, 1758 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Mary D. Folsom b: Abt. 1682 in poss. Exeter, Rockingham, NH d: February 10, 1754 in prob. Exter, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: 1705 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... *2nd Wife of [3] JONATHAN ROBINSON:
........ +Ruth Morse b: April 15, 1684 in Groton, Middlesex, Massachusetts d: April 25, 1759 in Lexington, Middlesex, Massachusetts m: June 19, 1706 in Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts
.... 2 [4] David Robinson b: July 28, 1684 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: May 17, 1769 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Sarah Sanborn b: 1686 in Hampton, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: 1778 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: January 01, 1704/05 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... *2nd Wife of [4] David Robinson:
........ +Martha Brown b: Abt. 1684 in Hampton Falls rockingham, New Hampshire m: April 27, 1742
.... 2 JAMES ROBINSON, Captain b: December 07, 1685 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: December 27, 1769 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Mary Jackson b: Bet. 1685 - 1689 in Exeter, Rockingham, NH d: Aft. February 1719/20 in Stratham, Rockingham, NH m: 1711 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 [5] Joseph Robinson b: May 01, 1690 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: August 16, 1776 in Nottingham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Sara Norris b: 1690 d: 1756
.... *2nd Wife of [5] Joseph Robinson:
........ +Sarah Norris b: 1690 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: 1756 in prob. Nottingham, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: August 18, 1716 in Epping, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 John Robinson b: 1671 d: 1749 in New Hampshire
........ +[6] Mehitable Stanyan b: January 01, 1675/76 in Hampton, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: July 07, 1749 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
This all leads us far back to a John Robinson born in 1611 in Meppershall, Bedfordshire, England. He died in 1675 in Exeter/ Hampton, Rockingham, New Hampshire. This has gone back to a Robert Robinson b: 1465 of Redriff, Surrey, England. Somewhere along here, our line met up with some Irish Fitzpatricks to have the big Y test show our line of Robinson has been classified as R-FT111213.
Another party, not a Robinson, also matches the male line of Y with FT111213 as well. They are also a line from Maine. Our Abiathar Smith Robinson is the first to leave the Vermont history. I didn't have a clue his family could be from Maine. He was alone in Vermont without parents that I knew of. On the 1850 census, his future 15 year old wife in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont, had a 51 yr old John Robinson farmer living with them helping out her father. I had suspected him to be Abiathar's father, but Abiathar wasn't staying there with him. Julia Ann Tuller and Abiathar married in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont next door to Royalton. They had a lot of Robinsons living there, and I believe Abiathar was staying there. The problem is that Robinson is a very common surname, being 16th most popular in the USA. New England was loaded with Robinsons.
"From the 12th century onwards, a group of Normans, and our Robinson line appears to be Norman, invaded and settled in Gaelic Ireland. These settlers later became known as Norman Irish or Hiberno-Normans. ... In Ireland, the Normans were also closely associated with the Gregorian Reform of the Catholic Church in Ireland. "
"The Fitzpatricks remained powerful despite the military force of the Normans. They were one of the first major Irish families to relent to Henry VIII."
Through DNA's family finder test of our 23 chromosomes having segments of DNA, I have found other women with bits of DNA matching ours on a few of our 23 chromosomes showing that Robinsons did connect with other Robinsons that were connected to us.
Resource: https://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20100917/NEWS/9170386
http://www.hampton.lib.nh.us/hampton/history/hazlett.htm
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| Maine is so large compared to NH and Vermont! Jonathan Robinson b: 1645 in Massachusetts is a common ancestor to two other Robinsons and a Dyer of ours, with others connected to Maine. We had a triangulation.
I have found Dyers in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont where
Julia Ann Tuller lived at age 15, or ggrandmother. I found a
Gotham Dyer on the 1810 census and Jonathan Dyer , 78,with son,
Jonathan Dyer,35, on the 1850 census of Royalton.
Also on this 1810 census in Royalton was Amos Robinson III b: 1767 in Lebanon, CT with a son under 10, 2 sons from 10 to 15 and 2 sons from 16 to 25. He was from age 26 to 44. He was also on the 1820 census. Also on this same census was Martin Tuller b: 1784 and nephew of Daniel who was born in Royalton, with a son under 10 and he was also from 26 to 44 and his Uncle Daniel Tuller, Deacon b: 1745, who was older, from 45 and over with a son from 10 to 25. The Tullers were Julia Ann Tuller, wife of Abiathar's relatives. I have no idea of what the Y haplogroup of Amos Robinson could be, but this line hasn't connected with the found line of R-FT111213 that I know of, being descendants haven't been found that match, or could this Gotham Dyer have been a descendant of the Dyer line I know of? This is it. The line of Abiathar Smith Robinson, our ggrandfather, has to go like this. In Royalton, Vermont where his wife, Julia Ann Tuller lived at age 15, were many Amos Robinsons, and one, Amos Robinson, III, was his grandfather. His father was one of the sons, either Amos IV or Cyrus. I'll take Amos as Abiathar starts with A; like father, like son. I have just discovered that if I did the genealogy correctly, which I do question and will go back and check on, that the line goes back to The same Dyer line winding up in Meppershall, England. Like This: 1. Amos Robinson, III b: Sept 1767; wives Lavina Bullock and Betsey Hughes, Royalton, Windsor, Vermont but born in Lebanon, CT 2. Amos Robinson, IV b: 1711, wife Priscilla Lake, Topsfield Mass, Royalton, Windsor, Vermont 3. Jacob Robinson, b:1680, Topsfield, Mass. 4. John Robinson, b: 1642, Haverhill, Mass. 5. John Robinson, b: 1611, Meppershall, England With this line, I don't have to worry about Maine. That was the line apart from this line. Both carried the same Y haplogroup but started in England. My program and my genealogy back before 1850 could be shaky. We'll see. |
The reason I think this is that it's part of a line belonging to a very close match of his, another James Robinson, as a matter of fact, of Maine and another Robinson who also follows his tree. In this family, Abiathar could have been one of 10 siblings, and had ridden off to Vermont when about 20 years old.
Or somewhere along this family line of Robinsons, our line connects with the same Y haplogroup DNA.
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| 1644 in Spain, the look |
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This was just verified by Tim Fitzpatrick of the Fitzpatrick group on FTDNA, because all 3 show we also have Irish genes of the Fitzpatrick line. This was not found by our genealogy findings, but by DNA matchings. Amazing, isn't it? It doesn't mean that we share any segments of DNA on our 23 chromosomes, either as a different test would show.
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| Haverhill Witch Trials have accused 5 women but none were executed. |
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| Robinson Female Seminary in Exeter, New Hampshire 1870 where Jonathan Robinson died in 1727. The school was dedicated to the idea that young women should study academics at the same level that boys , but it was quickly determined that cooking could be taught scientifically and was a practical skill and was needed for the betterment of society. Nathaniel Ward, the esteemed Puritan Minister from Ipswich had petitioned the General Court of the Massachusetts Bay Colony for a settlement along the Merrimack River in order to secure a residence and ministry for his son John Ward. The men chosen to pioneer this expedition were pilgrims, independent men who had come to New England to establish a home and community where they could plough the land and practice religious freedom. After finding the settlements at Newbury and Ipswich fully inhabited, Pentucket promised a chance for prosperity at a new plantation where land could be cleared, fields tilled and God’s abundant bounty sustained. Old Pentucket was Haverhill's first 100 years. The intrepid explorers were by name: William White, John Robinson, Abraham Tyler, Samuel Gile, Christopher Hussey, Daniel Ladd, James Davis, John Williams, Joseph Merrie, Henry Palmer, Richard Littlehale and Job Clement.  |
Haverhill, where Jonathan was born in 1645, is located 35 miles north of Boston on the New Hampshire border and about 17 miles from the Atlantic Ocean.
Founded in 1640 and officially purchased from the Native American Pentuckets in 1642, this northern Massachusetts town was originally called Pentucket. The name was changed to Haverhill in honor of the English home of Haverhill’s first pastor, Reverend John Ward. The original settlement on the Merrimack River was located near what is today the Linwood Cemetery and Crematory. Haverhill, originally incorporated as a town, was incorporated as a city in 1870. It evolved from a farming community, to a mill town, to a leading center of shoe manufacturing from the 1830s to the 1930s. Today it is home to approximately 63,000 residentsud 1640 and officially purchased from the Native American Pentukets in 1642, this Ward.
Haverhill, Massachusetts is located on the Merrimack River, it began as a farming community of Puritans, largely from Newbury Plantation. The land was officially purchased from the Pentuckets on November 15, 1642 (a year after incorporation) for three pounds, ten shillings. Pentucket was renamed Haverhill (after the Ward family's hometown in England) and evolved into an important industrial center, beginning with sawmills and gristmills run by water power.
By 1790 there were 1,722 people in Exeter. Rockingham, New Hampshire, where Jonathan Robinson died. Exeter suffered its last Indian raid in August 1723 and by 1725 the tribes had left the area. In 1774 the rebellious Provincial Congress began to meet in the Exeter Town House after Colonial Governor John Wentworth banned it from the colonial capitol at Portsmouth. In July 1775, the Provincial Congress had the provincial records seized from royal officials in Portsmouth and brought to Exeter as well. And so Exeter became New Hampshire's American Revolutionary War capital, an honor it held for 14 years until Concord assumed the role. He died at age 82.
Rockingham County, New Hampshire History - Genealogy
1 [7] JONATHAN ROBINSON b: May 16, 1645 in Haverhill, Essex, Massachusetts d: September 1727 in Exeter, Rockingham, NH
. +Sarah Elizabeth Cram Scribner b: 1649 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: 1690 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: Bet. 1670 - 1671 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 [1] John Robinson III b: September 07, 1671 in Exeter, Rockingham, NH d: Bef. July 07, 1755 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +[6] Mehitable Stanyan b: January 01, 1675/76 in Hampton, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: July 07, 1749 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: Abt. 1715 in Exeter, New Hampshire
.... *2nd Wife of [1] John Robinson III:
........ +Elizabeth Folsom b: Abt. 1671 m: February 01, 1725/26
.... 2 Sarah Robinson b: October 29, 1673
.... 2 Hester Esther Robinson b: August 12, 1677 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 [2] Elizabeth Robinson b: September 06, 1679 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Abraham Folsom b: Abt. 1679
.... *2nd Husband of [2] Elizabeth Robinson:
........ +James Runlett Rundlett b: Abt. 1679 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: June 1724 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: November 21, 1699 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 [3] JONATHAN ROBINSON b: July 09, 1681 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: May 11, 1758 in Exeter, Rockingham NH/ Hampton Falls, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Mary D. Folsom b: Abt. 1682 in poss. Exeter, Rockingham, NH d: February 10, 1754 in prob. Exter, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: 1705 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... *2nd Wife of [3] JONATHAN ROBINSON:
........ +Ruth Morse b: April 15, 1684 in Groton, Middlesex, Massachusetts d: April 25, 1759 in Lexington, Middlesex, Massachusetts m: June 19, 1706 in Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts
.... 2 [4] David Robinson b: July 28, 1684 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: May 17, 1769 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Sarah Sanborn b: 1686 in Hampton, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: 1778 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: January 01, 1704/05 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... *2nd Wife of [4] David Robinson:
........ +Martha Brown b: Abt. 1684 in Hampton Falls rockingham, New Hampshire m: April 27, 1742
.... 2 JAMES ROBINSON, Captain b: December 07, 1685 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: December 27, 1769 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Mary Jackson b: Bet. 1685 - 1689 in Exeter, Rockingham, NH d: Aft. February 1719/20 in Stratham, Rockingham, NH m: 1711 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 [5] Joseph Robinson b: May 01, 1690 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: August 16, 1776 in Nottingham, Rockingham, New Hampshire
........ +Sara Norris b: 1690 d: 1756
.... *2nd Wife of [5] Joseph Robinson:
........ +Sarah Norris b: 1690 in Stratham, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: 1756 in prob. Nottingham, Rockingham, New Hampshire m: August 18, 1716 in Epping, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.... 2 John Robinson b: 1671 d: 1749 in New Hampshire
........ +[6] Mehitable Stanyan b: January 01, 1675/76 in Hampton, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: July 07, 1749 in Exeter, Rockingham, New Hampshire
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| Meppershall is a hilltop village in Bedfordshire near Shefford, Campton, Shillington, Stondon, England, and surrounded by farmland. The village and the manor house are mentioned in the Domesday Book in 1086 - with the entry reading: Malpertesselle/Maperteshale: Gilbert FitzSolomon. |
Another party, not a Robinson, also matches the male line of Y with FT111213 as well. They are also a line from Maine. Our Abiathar Smith Robinson is the first to leave the Vermont history. I didn't have a clue his family could be from Maine. He was alone in Vermont without parents that I knew of. On the 1850 census, his future 15 year old wife in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont, had a 51 yr old John Robinson farmer living with them helping out her father. I had suspected him to be Abiathar's father, but Abiathar wasn't staying there with him. Julia Ann Tuller and Abiathar married in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont next door to Royalton. They had a lot of Robinsons living there, and I believe Abiathar was staying there. The problem is that Robinson is a very common surname, being 16th most popular in the USA. New England was loaded with Robinsons.
"From the 12th century onwards, a group of Normans, and our Robinson line appears to be Norman, invaded and settled in Gaelic Ireland. These settlers later became known as Norman Irish or Hiberno-Normans. ... In Ireland, the Normans were also closely associated with the Gregorian Reform of the Catholic Church in Ireland. "
"The Fitzpatricks remained powerful despite the military force of the Normans. They were one of the first major Irish families to relent to Henry VIII."
Through DNA's family finder test of our 23 chromosomes having segments of DNA, I have found other women with bits of DNA matching ours on a few of our 23 chromosomes showing that Robinsons did connect with other Robinsons that were connected to us.
Resource: https://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20100917/NEWS/9170386
http://www.hampton.lib.nh.us/hampton/history/hazlett.htm
https://u-s-history.com/pages/h2170.html
https://salemwitchmuseum.com/locations/welcome-to-haverhill/
https://ireland-calling.com/irish-names-fitzpatrick/#:~:text=The%20Fitzpatricks%20remained%20powerful%20despite,to%20relent%20to%20Henry%20VIII.
https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=fitzpatrick#:~:text=Irish%3A%20occasionally%20this%20may%20be,Giolla%20P%C3%A1draig%20(see%20Kilpatrick).
https://salemwitchmuseum.com/locations/welcome-to-haverhill/
https://ireland-calling.com/irish-names-fitzpatrick/#:~:text=The%20Fitzpatricks%20remained%20powerful%20despite,to%20relent%20to%20Henry%20VIII.
https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=fitzpatrick#:~:text=Irish%3A%20occasionally%20this%20may%20be,Giolla%20P%C3%A1draig%20(see%20Kilpatrick).
Labels: Abiathar Smith Robinson, dna, Jonathan Robinson b: 1645, Maine, Vermont
# posted by Nadene Goldfoot @ 9:43 PM 
