Saturday, July 06, 2019

 

Update: How Abiathar Smith Robinson Gets to Glasgow, Scotland Ancestor

Nadene Goldfoot                             
Abiathar with son Frank Hugh Robinson,
my grandfather (Y haplogroup:R-L21)

https://thescotsirish.blogspot.com/2014/10/r-l21-haplogroup-and-scots-irish.html

This same haplogroup should be carried by all the male ancestors and have reached
Abiathar and his descendants; tested by his grandson.  Any Robinson with this same
haplotype should be a descendant. of these New England Robinsons.
  

Ancestors of Abiathar Smith Robinson

[1] Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 1829 in Roxbury, Delaware,New York/  Tunbridge, Orange/ Jamaica, Windham, Vermont d: October 07, 1904 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
.. +Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: December 02, 1887 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
*2nd Wife of [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson:
.. +Mary Jane Deffenbaugh Walters b: November 27, 1832 in Hocking County, Ohio d: July 05, 1918 in Streator, LaSalle, Illinois, age 85

FATHER: Descendants of JOHN R. ROBINSON (I hope)
JOHN R. ROBINSON b: September 03, 1784 in Westminster, Windham, Vermont-on tree-familysearch d: July 04, 1860 in Stowe, Lamoille, Vermont-on tree-familysearch
.. +Sophronia Pember b: December 25, 1788 in Randolph, Orange,  Vermont d: November 14, 1876 in Stowe, Lamoille, Vermont

GRANDFATHER: Descendants of NOAH Robinson
[1] NOAH Robinson b: March 05, 1757 in Cumberland, Rhode Island d: November 21, 1848 in Stowe,Lamoille, Vermont
.. +Lydia
*2nd Wife of [1] NOAH Robinson:
.. +Mary Doubleday b: August 23, 1758 in Pomfret,Windham, Connecticut d: October 01, 1832 in Rutland County, Vermont/ Stowe,Lamoille, Vermont

GGRANDFATHER: Descendants of NATHANIEL Robinson,Jr., Deacon, Judge
NATHANIEL Robinson,Jr., Deacon, Judge b: April 04, 1724 in Attleboro, Bristol, Massachusetts d: December 19, 1815 in Westminster, Windham,  Vermont age 92
.. +Kezia Robbins b: January 04, 1726/27 in Attleboro, Bristol, Massachusetts d: August 23, 1795 in Westminster, Windham, Vermont

GGGRANDFATHER: Descendants of Nathaniel Robinson, Sr.
Nathaniel Robinson, Sr. b: February 01, 1691/92 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts d: August 01, 1771 in Attleboro, Bristol, Massachusetts
.. +Zilpha Daggett b: 1698 in Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts d: March 08, 1792 in Attleboro, Bristol Co. Massachusetts

GGGGRANDFATHER:  Descendants of George Robinson, Jr.
George Robinson, Jr. b: 1670 in Rehoboth, Attleboro, Bristol, Massachusetts d: September 30, 1724 in Attleboro,Bristol,  Massachusetts
.. +Elizabeth Guild b: January 18, 1659/60 in Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts d: October 21, 1740 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts


                                                             
Glasgow bridge in the 1890s
           
GGGGGRANDFATHER: Descendants of George Robinson (4th ggrandfather) 
George Robinson b: 1626 in Glasgow, Scotland d: November 09, 1699 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts, Attleboro, MA
.. +Joanna Ingraham b: Bet. 1629 - 1633 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts d: July 26, 1699 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts

                                                       ***************
Or-FATHER: Descendants of JACOB H. ROBINSON

[1] JACOB H. ROBINSON b: 1790 in New York/ Vermont,
(2 DNA matches have him on their tree) d: October 14, 1867 in Bakersfield, Franklin, Vermont
.. +Mary J. b: 1805 in Bakersfield, Franklin, Vermont d: in Bakersfield, Franklin, Vermont
*2nd Wife of [1] JACOB H. ROBINSON:
.. +Olive Polly Clemens Clement b: August 1816 in Ferrisburg, Quebec, Canada/Vermont d: December 03, 1900 in Bakersfield, Franklin, Vermont

GRANDFATHER: Descendants of JOHN Robinson

JOHN Robinson b: 1769 in Tolland, Connecticut d: October 05, 1827 in East Shoreham, Addison, Vermont
.. +Mary Abbe b: 1775 in Tolland, Connecticut d: August 11, 1822 in East Shoreham, Addison, Vermont

GGRANDFATHER: Descendants of George Robinson, Reverend
[1] George Robinson, Reverend b: July 23, 1726 in Attleboro, Bristol Co, Massachusetts d: August 19, 1812 in Attleboro, Massachusetts.
.. +Abigail Everett b: November 20, 1727 in Dedham, Massachusetts d: May 15, 1762 in Attleboro, Bristol, Massachusetts
*2nd Wife of [1] George Robinson, Reverend:
.. +Lucy Pierce b: Abt. 1730 d: 1770
*3rd Wife of [1] George Robinson, Reverend:
.. +Zipporah Allen b: 1749 in Berkley, Massachusetts d: 1825 in Hallowell, ME

GGGRANDFATHER: Descendants of Nathaniel Robinson, Sr.
Nathaniel Robinson, Sr. b: February 01, 1691/92 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts d: August 01, 1771 in Attleboro, Bristol, Massachusetts
.. +Zilpha Daggett b: 1698 in Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts d: March 08, 1792 in Attleboro, Bristol Co. Massachusetts

GGGGRANDFATHER: Descendants of George Robinson, Jr.
George Robinson, Jr. b: 1670 in Rehoboth, Attleboro, Bristol, Massachusetts d: September 30, 1724 in Attleboro,Bristol,  Massachusetts
.. +Elizabeth Guild b: January 18, 1659/60 in Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts d: October 21, 1740 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts

GGGGGRANDFATHER: Descendants of George Robinson (4TH ggrandfather)
George Robinson b: 1626 in Glasgow, Scotland d: November 09, 1699 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts, Attleboro, MA
.. +Joanna Ingraham b: Bet. 1629 - 1633 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts d: July 26, 1699 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts

I found that George of Glasgow had 6 sons:  Samuel George, George, William, Benjamin, John, and Nathaniel.  He left many avenues from New England to Scotland.  

Our 3 Y haplogroup DNA matches do not lead to Scotland nor are they of R-L21 haplogroup.  They are R-M269 which could out to be the same but needs a higher testing,  and the other 2 are both R's of different branches.  


R1b1a2a1a1b4 our Robinson haplogroup=now called R-L21 is the haplogroup of the majority of the Scots-Irish.  Historically it represents the 'Western Atlantic Celtic' population, which includes the Insular Celts, both Gaelic and Cumbric.   In layman's language, this population has it origins in the indigenous Celtic tribes of Britain and Ireland.  Within the Scots-Irish population this includes the native Cumbric Celtic tribes of what we now call the Scottish Lowlands, and the Gaelic population.  This tells us the majority of the people in the New World that identify as 'Scots-Irish' are the descendants of the indigenous Celts of the British Isles and Ireland.  



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Sunday, October 08, 2017

 

DNA Leads to Roxbury, New York for Abiathar Smith Robinson's birth

  Nadene Goldfoot                                                                       
DNA is leading me to one of the descendants of Reverend John Robinson of Holland who led the pilgrims to sail in the Mayflower in 1620 to America. Grandfather Frank Hugh Robinson's oral history was that his family came over not on the Mayflower but the ship after it.    My ggrandfather, Abiathar Smith Robinson, said that he was born in New York before he died.  His Y haplogroup of DNA is R-L21.  He had married Julia Ann Tuller in 1852 in Tunbridge, Vermont.  She was from the town next door, Royalton, Vermont.  Earlier census said he was born in Vermont. The question is, "Who gave the census taker the information, Abiathar?  Children? 2nd Wife?                                                                                                                       
Any records as to who his parents were have been lost or destroyed.  Now I'm relying on DNA to lead to his ancestors.  I have found two ladies who share DNA with me.  We have to assume it's Robinson DNA.  One has found an Ebenezer Ganong Robinson born May 1823 in Roxbury, Delaware, New York  as an ancestor.  Ebenezer's wife was Julia Ann Morse, also born in Roxbury.
                                                                         
Church that Robinsons attended
I've found that Ebenezer's father was Daniel G. Robinson born in 1796 in Roxbury.  Sophia Randall, also born in Roxbury, was his wife.  Their first child was Ebenezer Ganong Robinson born 1823.
                                                                             
Frank Hugh Robinson as a little boy with father, Abiathar Smith Robinson
Abiathar met his wife, Julia Ann Tuller, in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont and married her in 1852 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont.  She was 17, he 23.   Was he from New York or Vermont? 
The 2nd child could very well have been Abiathar Smith Robinson b: 1829.  Mary E Robinson was born two years later in 1831.  Irena was born in 1835, and Abigail in 1839.  Anna Polina was born in 1842, and John H Robinson was born in 1844.   Why is it that Abiathar's records have never appeared?   Is it because he was born in December?   Ebenezer died November 20, 1900 Clark County, Washington.  Abiathar's son, Frank Hugh, died in Hillsboro, Washington, Oregon.
                                                                         
Batavia Kill was a small stream running down in the east of Vega Mountain in the area SE of the town of Roxbury.  The Robinsons farmed and ran mills on the banks of the Kill.  Vega Mountain, east of the town of Roxbury where Major Ebenezer Robinson, his sons and sons-in-law settled in 1793 to 1794.  "The oldest school-house in this town is the one above Robinson's grist-mill, up the Hardscrabble road. It was built in 1813, of stone, and is in as good condition as when built. Since the consolidation of the districts around the village with the village district, it has been used by the "Christians" as a place of worship, but at present there is no organization of the kind in the town."
                                                       
Promoted to Major by July, 1776. A company such as he had commanded as Captain would consist of 85 to 100 men from a specific neighborhood or town. They constituted a “beat” or company. On the first “beat” of a drum, the first company would organize, and so on through the six beats of the regiment.  “Each man had to furnish his own good musket or firelock and Bayonet, sword or tomahawk, a steel ramrod, worm, priming wire and brush fitted thereto, a cartouch box to contain 23 rounds of cartridges, 12 flints and a knapsack, or to be fined under forfeiture.” 

Everyone in those days were farmers, and of course the Robinson's all over New England were farmers, too.  Major Ebenezer Robinson born 1735 that then could be Abiathar's great grandfather. He died in 1802 in Roxbury, New York.  Born in Massachusetts, he had been a Major in the Revolutionary War.   Ebenezer's son was Issachar b: 1761 in Dutchess, NY and died in Delaware, New York.  His son was Daniel G born in 1796 in Roxbury  and then Daniel's 2nd son I hope was Abiathar Smith. The 1st son, Abiathar's brother, was  then Ebenezer Ganong Robinson b 1823.  It is from this connection that we connect our DNA and our genealogy trees.  
   
This town was formed from Stamford March 23rd, 1799. Unfortunately the leaf containing the proceedings of the first town meeting is missing from the clerk's record-book. On a later page we have it recorded that "the subscribers, finding it necessary to lay out a road from Mantana kill [adopt] a westerly course, beginning at a heap of stones and running near the dwelling house of William Varmilya, and from thence by a line of marked trees to the dwelling house of Thomas Austin, to a beech tree marked H; the same being four rods wide.
"Done by us, John T. More, David Robinson, Commissioners of Highways."
                                                    
The other lead goes to Robinsons living in Bakersfield, Franklin,  Vermont as far back as the 1790-1800 period.  
Both lines lead to Reverend John Robinson of the Pilgrims.   

Timeline                      


1829, December: Abiathar Smith Robinson b: in NY or Vermont
1834, December 18, Julia Ann Tuller b: in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont
1852, February 29, m::Abiathar-Julia in Tunbridge, Orange, Vt.
1852, November, Edward Rix Robinson b: in Vermont
1855                    Edgar Clyde Robinson b: in Vermont
                                                

Leaving Royalton, Vermont for Montreal, Canada

                                           
Farming, breaking sod on prairie

1857, October, Nellie Elizabeth Robinson b: in Canada, Upper English
                                           

1861, April 12 Civil War began in USA
1861, August, Emma Hattie Robinson b: in Canada
1864, April 21, John C. Robinson b: in Canada, Montreal English
                                          
Returning after Civil War but to Wenona, Illinois
1865, May 9 Civil War ended in USA

1865,               Julia Robinson b: in Vermont
1867, June,    William S. Robinson b: in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
1870 Aug 11, Census said Abiathar's parents born in Vermont
1870, June 21, Frank Hugh Robinson b: in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
1873, Jan.5, Nellie E m: Daniel C. McCullem, Omaha, Douglas, Neb.
1875, November, Minnie J. Robinson b: in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
1879, March 13, Edgar Clyde m: Mary Elizabeth Acuff, Cambridge, Ill.
1880 June 7, Census said Abiathar's parents born in Vermont
1880, May 30, Arthur Roy Robinson b: in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
1880, Dec 24, Emma Hattie m: George D. Miller in Wenona, Marshall, Ill.
1887, April 17, Edgar Clyde d:: Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
1887, December 2,  Julia Tuller d: in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
1888, Feb 22, John C m: Hermia Howell in Osage, LaSalle, Illinois
1889,            William m: Carrie A. Monninger in LaSalle, Illinois
1891, March 7, Daniel McCullem d: Omaha, Nebraska s(Nellie)
1891, Sept, Minnie J. m: Louis Sherman Cusac in Lacon, Marshall, Ill.
1892, Dec 2, Frank Hugh m: Alice Mitchell in Omaha, Nebraska
1893, Jan 5, Nellie E m: Alexander Charles Sillik in Omaha, Nebraska
1896,           Abiathar m: Mary Jan Walters in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
1903,           Julia,  d: ??
1900 June 7,Census said Abiathar's parents born in New York.under 2nd wife's name, Mary J; NY, NY, NY, for Abiathar 
1904, August 11, Arthur Roy m: Minnie Mae Ross Smith in Lacon, Illinois
1904, October 7, Abiathar S. Robinson d:  in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
1905, Dec.28, Nellie E.d: Omaha,Douglas, Nebraska
1910,             Frank Hugh m: Augusta Gustafson in Sioux City, Iowa
1912, Sept. 20, Edward Rix , m: -Jenette Jenson, Tama, Iowa
                                                   

1915 Model T. Ford
1918, July 5, Mary Jane Walters d: in Streator, Illinois (Abiathar S)
1922,                  Edward Rix Robinson d: in Illinois
1923, June 5, John C. d: LaSalle, Illinois
1923               Minnie J.: d: Illinois
1923, July 7, Alexander Charles Sillik d: in Tulsa, Oklahoma (Nellie)
1924, July 2, George D. Miller d: Wenona, Marshall, Illinois ? (Emma)
1927, April 17, Arthur Roy d:  in Peoria, LaSalle,  Illinois
1930, Dec 29, Emma Hattie d: Streater, LaSalle, Illinois
1935, April 19, William S. d: Peoria, LaSalle, Illinois
1936, Oct 27, Hermia Howell d: LaSalle, LaSalle, Illinois (John C)
                                                
1942 Nash Automobile
1943, Dec 14, Carrie A. Monninger d: Davenport, Iowa (William S)
1952, May 27, Frank Hugh d: Hillsboro, Washington, Oregon
1955, April 19, Augusta d: Hillsboro, Washington, Oregon (Frank)

Resource: http://escapebrooklyn.com/bellfire-farm/
http://www.dcnyhistory.org/books/munrox.html
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nydutche/robinson.html
https://www.facebook.com/DescendantsOfRevJohnRobinson/
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Bakersfield,_Franklin_County,_Vermont_Genealogy


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Saturday, November 13, 2010

 

Mayflower and Ships Following


The Mayflower came to Plymouth Rock in 1620. There was another ship the very next year in June 1621. It was the Fortune which came over in November 1621 with 35 people. Then in July of 1623 cme the Anne and Little James. Another larger group of ships came in 1630. A Captain Wolcott came over with 20 proprietors and many indentured servants. They started a plantation near the SW corner of Boston Harbor called "Mount Wollaston" which was later called QUINCY.'' Plimoth Plantation was settled in 1627 and William Bradford was the governor for many years. He called those who came over on the Mayflower with him "pilgrims" because he hoped they would had journeyed to a new kind of Holy Land where they would have freedom of worship. More than half died during the winter of 1620, after which nine more ships arrived from England with additional settlers.

Our ancestors of our grandfather, Frank Hugh Robinson, said they came over on the ship right after the Mayflower. I'm not sure if that was a Robinson, or possibly could have been someone on his mother's side, which could have been a Tuller or a Durkee. At any rate, they were early arrivals.

Our ancestors were probably Pilgrims that came over after the Mayflower. They were separatists from the Church of England. The 30 years after the Mayflower saw about 20,000 English immigrants arrive in the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and because of the strictness there, our ancestors moved into what was to become New Hampshire and Connecticut. The journey on the terribly overcrowed ship took over 6 to 12 weeks and often ran out of food even though they were promised food. It cost about 30 pounts ($1,000) for a family of 8 with a ton of freight to come over.

The majority of people living in England in the 1620's were very poor. The monarch, Queen Elizabeth I and James I, wanted to maintain the Church of England as the only permissible religion. Anyone suspected of religious deviance was imprisoned, threatened, fined, sometimes tortured and even hanged. Therefore, the ones who came over sought to escape religious persecution and wanted to worship in the manner they believed to be the "proper Christian way." Children were put to work by the time they were age 6 or 7. They were expected to do as they're told. Complete and unquestioning obedience was the rule. Sunday was a day of rest and religion. Church services began at 8 in the morning and lasted until noon. Services resumed around 2 p.m. and continued until 5 p.m. or 6p.m.

They could have come over in 1630 as one of 700 people who left from Bristol Bay as that is so close to Wales. Our ancestor could have been one of the West Country folks. The Puritans of South Wales were in a weaving center. It was the closest association to the English plains or coastal plains. It was developed by Independents and Baptists. These people were especially selected for persecution in S.W. Wales. So they could also have come here because of religious persecution.Wolcott began selling off servants to Virginia. Thomas Morton took over and called it MERRY MOUNT. He freed the servants and set up a joint trading enterprise.

Ten years later, a fleet of eleven ships came over with the flagship Arbella from Southampton. This was now the year 1630. The people went to Boston, Charleston, Waterdown, Roxburg, New Town (Cambridge), Mystic, and Dorchester. Other ships mentioned in the fleet were the Talbat, Ambrose, and Jewel. They left England from Bristol and Plymath (by Wales), and Southampton.

Wolcott began selling off servants to Virginia. Thomas Morton took over and called it MERRY MOUNT. He freed the servants and set up a joint trading enterprise.

Thirty years after the Mayflower arrived, another ship landed at the Mass. Bay Colony. This was in 1650. The ship took from 6 to 12 weeks to get here and ran out of food. They settled in Rhode Island, New Hampshire and Connecticut.

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