Wednesday, October 05, 2022

 

Robinson Ancestor Found By DNA Line From Robert Robinson of England 1465-1510

 Nadene Goldfoot                                         

Great grandfather Abiathar Smith Robinson 1829-1904, Royalton, Vermont and his son and our grandfather, Frank Hugh Robinson 1870-1952 in Hillsboro, Oregon.  

It is October, 2022.  I've been working on this forever.  I've changed my mind at least 100 times, but finally am settling on who Abiathar Smith Robinson's line comes from.  .   His mother had to be Lois Safford.    Here's how I decided, see below the pictures:  

A younger Abiathar Smith Robinson from cousin Tom whose mother was Leola Marie Robinson and her father was Arthur Roy Robinson, also son of Abiathar Smith Robinson.  Arthur wass 10 years younger than our grandfather, Frank Hugh.  
Our grandfather is Frank Hugh Robinson, the older one and the one on the right could be his youngest brother, Arthur Roy Robinson, born in 1880.   

I believe that Abiathar's father was Amos Robinson, IV.                    

        1  [1] AMOS IV ROBINSON b: December 28, 1797 in Royalton, Windsor County, Vermont/Barnard, VT d: August 07, 1871 in Menasha, Wisc-hit by lightening while helping another farmer-hay caused it Age at death: 73

. +Betsey Davis b: 1795 in Royalton, Vermont d: September 15, 1824 in Brownell house, Broad Brook,  Royalton, Vermont age 23 m: December 10, 1821 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont Age at death: 29 est. m: December 10, 1821 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont

*2nd Wife of [1] AMOS IV ROBINSON:

. +LOIS Louisa SAFFORD b: December 04, 1800 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: September 14, 1880 in Menasha, Winnebago, Wisconsin m: June 09, 1825 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont Age at death: 79 m: June 09, 1825 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont

Amos Robinson's father was Amos III and mother was Lavina Bullock;  his father was Amos Benton Robinson and mother was Deborah Hyde.  His father was Amos Robinson Sr, and mother was Priscilla Lake which takes us to Massachusetts.  That takes me to Jacob Robinson b: 1680 in Topfield, MA, and Elizabeth Cummings.  John Robinson, Jr. b: 1645 was his father and mother was Dorothy Perkins. We finally get to Meppershall, England with John Robinson Sr, and that connects us to another Robinson, James Alton Robinson, who also researched carefully and arrived in Meppershall, England who we are very close to in DNA.  That really clinches the connection by finding Robert Robinson of 1465-d 1510 on his tree.  That makes James Alton Robinson and Ralph Dyer and Abiathar Smith Robinson connected to this Robert Robinson of the 1400s in Meppershall, England who all connect to Fitzpatricks of Ireland.  

My 1st cousin took 67 allele test, then  the Big Y Test, paid for by the Fitzpatrick Irish group, because we matched their people, giving us Irish origins with some unknown cousin, and it showed that we we had 2 other matches on FTDNA at that Big Y state; Robert Robinson b:1465-d: 1510 who was already listed on my tree;  and Ralph Dyer of England, of which I had the present Dyer already listed on my tree.  This Robert Robinson was the result of my first inclination of the correct ancesto, a perfect match to Dyer and a perfect match to the Irish Fitzpatricks.  Grandpa Frank had told us his ancestors were from Wales which could have been true, though going deeper, they came from Ireland.  A war had been going on between Ireland and England and things do get messy.     

I followed Robert's descendants through the tree and it led to, surprises of all surprises, to my original hunch, Amos Robinson IV b: 1797 in Royalton, Vermont and his wife, Lois or Louisa Safford, also of Royalton.  Our ggrandfather, Abiathar Smith Robinson, was married to Julia Ann Tuller of Royalton.  Abiathar was never on any written papers being the son of Amos.  That's why it was so hard to find his father.  Abiathar was left out of any written history.  All I could find out was that he was born on December 7, 1829 which is probably why he wasn't listed, being born with snow most likely in December in Royalton or nearby. 

Heaven help me if I change my mind.  This messes up my other female DNA connections, but they must connect somewhere along the way somehow.  It's just that this Big Y test result is BIG and Important. There are a million Robinsons from New England, and only 3 tested with this DNA.  It's quite rare.  Before the Big Y test, we knew it to be called R-M269.  I had tested it past the 67 allele test headed for more, but the Big Y is the end of the line, at least for now.  

Now I'll have to go back and see what I can do with cousins already found that are not connected to this line---yet.  There are names that are the same, though, another fact that is most confusing.  

Back to Royalton, Windsor County, Vermont !  When I first started this research, I took out a book at the library on Royalton, Vermont descendants, and that's where I got a lot of my information.  It was special, on the inter-state loan section behind the desks.  History of Royalton, Vermont: With Family Genealogies, 1769-1911 - Mary Evelyn Wood Lovejoy - Google Books.

My gosh!  Doing a search, I found a kinetic metal sculptor by the name of Amos Robinson!  Could he be related?

Bakersfield is in Franklin County, top left in green.

Royalton is in Windsor County, bottom in blue.  

Update; 10/10/22 An additional point is that I have DNA cousins found and thought the connection was from Bakersfield, Franklin, Vermont.  Bakersfield is only 81 miles from Royalton, Windsor, Vermont;  and today it would take only 1 hour and 34 minutes to drive the distance on I-89 North.  So it is possible to still find the connection between the  female twins Sherie and Cheryl Lynn, 2nd-4th cousins and Cheryl, a 3rd cousin once Removed.  The irony here is that my 1st cousin is Charlotte Carol that we call Sherie.  There's got to be a Charlotte or Sheryl in our genealogy that connects these 2 families with us besides the surname of Robinson.  

Ggrandfather Abiathar Smith Robinsons father, Amos Robinson IV, was born in Royalton in 1797, died in 1871 in Wisconsin.  He was married to Lois Safford and Betsey Davis.  

Amos's father was Amos Robinson III, born in Connecticut and died in Illinois.  He was married to Lavina Bullock and Elizabeth Hughes.  

Amos's father was Amos Benton, II, born in Massachusetts and died in New Hampshire.  He was married to Deborah Hyde, and a Lydia and an Anna.  Deborah was b: CT and d: Hartford, Windsor, Vermont.

Amos Benton Robinson's father was Amos Robinson, Sr. born in Massachusetts and died in Massachusetts.  His wife was Priscilla Lake and Lydia Wentworth.  

My female DNA matches with Robinson on their tree had a mother, Diane M possibly of Rhode Island. (I have a 1st cousin, Diane Robinson).  Their grandparents were a Richard David and a Lillian of Massachusetts, but our connection seems to be closer than that.  

Their ggrandparents, Arthur David,  are from Bakersfield, Vermont and Massachusetts. Arthur David's wife was Rebecca.  His father was David, son of a Jacob Robinson, and there are a million Jacob Robinsons in New England.  David was married to Rosina.  

Cherie's connection  were from Washington and Canada.  Her father was from Kansas and mother from Minnesota.  Her grandparents were from New Hampshire but buried in Bakersfield, and a New York, New Hampshire connection.  There's Bakersfield that connect these 3 ladies, but not necessarily me.  


Resource:

My Robinson family tree

https://amosrobinson.com/about/

https://www.fitzpatrickclan.org/

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