Robinson Genealogy

Nadene Goldfoot                       
                                                                     

King James II, VII

Chief Massasoit

I had a new match from  23 and Me today so looked at it.  The surname could have been a Jewish line or a gentile line, so I checked out the surname list given which are clues as to who a single segment could be.  The lady and I share one segment on chromosome #8.of 27cMs.   She was born closer to the year of my grandson's birth, and we are 4th cousins.

The surname that excited me was on her list of names which was Alexander.  I had a Chauncey Alexander on my tree born in 1818 in ? and died in 1843 in Northfield, Washington, Vermont.  I had no workup on him, but I did on his wife, who was part of my tree.  She was Mary Averall born in Northfield, Vermont in 1824.  She died in 1909 there.  They had married August 10, 1842.  Mary's parents were Oliver Averall and Harriet Polly Hopkins.  Oliver's father was Thomas Averall and his mother was Elizabeth Robinson b: 1751 in Providence, Rhode Island and had died in 1840 in Northfield, Vermont. (I am her 1st or 2nd cousin 5 times removed.)   Later, you will see that Mary Averall's husband, Chauncey Alexander,  also brings me to a huge surprise as to who his origins were.  They were 2 unimportant people sitting on my tree just because I like to keep following people and their ancestors that Family Search and ancestry.com make possible to do so.  They were very distant relatives.  By the way, the book, Plymouth Colony, is loaded with Hopkins people of this surname.  It's because Stephen Hopkins was one of the passengers on the ship, The Mayflower in 1620.  Stephen Hopkins had housed the Indians and had good relations with them.  (at least the nearby Wampnoags under the supreme chief Massasoit were good.  Somoset who was not a  Wampanoag, but came from Maine, ad learned some English fom fishing ships, and he walked in on the settlers shortly after their arrival at Plymouth and offered to help them.   Through Samoset, they learned also of Squanto, who was "a native of this place," but who had been taken by a ship to England.  Samoset stayed his first night at Stephen Hopkins's house, having familiarity from when he was in Virginia years earlier.  through Samoset, the colonists made initial contact with Massasoit and shortly after signed a peace treaty with hi, continuing until after Massasoit's death in 1662.  "

Elizabeth Robinson was the daughter of NATHANIEL Robinson,Jr., Deacon, Judge b: 1724 in Attleboro, Massachusetts.  He died in 1815 in Westminster, Vermont.  Her mother was was Keziah Robbins  who died in 1795 in Westminster, Vermont.  Nathaniel Robinson was a direct descendant of George Robinson of Glasgow, Scotland according to my research done previously..

I had already determined some time ago that this same George Robinson of Glasgow was our ancestor.  There are so many Robinsons in New England, and as I kept working on our Robinsons, many people had married into a Robinson line, so I've been guessing as to our known Abiathar Smith Robinson, father of our grandfather, Frank Hugh Robinsons's father.  Abiarthar's history ended in  Wenona, Marshall, Illinois where he is buried, and was known about on his marriage license, and his wife was known to be Julia Ann Tuller of Royalton, Vermont on the 1850 census at age 15, but Abiathar was on no piece of information.  It's been very frustrating.  To complicate matters, Julia's father had a John Robinson age 51,  working for him b: that could have been Abiathar's father or relative listed on that 1850 census living with them as another farmer.  He was alone; no wife or child with him on the census. That shows that he was born in 1799-1800.  The census said he was born in Vermont.  "In 1850, a John Robinson, farmer, was living with the Tullers.  Could he be the father of Abiathar who would have been 21?  Julia was 15 on the census.    I'm beginning to think so.  John would have been 30 years old at Abiathar's birth.  " (from my notes).  

So, as it is today, I have found a John Robinson b: 1784 in  Westminster, Vermont to be Abiathar's missing father.  I sure hope I'm right.  His wife is Sophromia Pember.  They both died in Stowe, Vermont.  They had a son named John K.Robinson b: 1819 in Stowe, Lamoille, Vermont.  This piece of information coincides with another earlier DNA match that was much closer to me as a 3rd cousin with FTDNA.  She's connected to the Bartlett family.  I think of the pears with this name.  She and I have worked on this line together for many sessions.  John K Robinson's wife was Celinda Lorinda Lee Lucinda S. Hoskins HARRIS.  She was born in 1821 in Stowe, Lamoille, Vermont also.  John K Robinson was also a direct descendant of George Robinson of Glasgow, Scotland.   They're on the same tree.

The confusing fact is that I have at least 10 to 12 lines of Robinson in my computer in MyFamily Tree Maker Program, an old software program from when I first started doing genealogy way way before DNA came into being for genealogy.

Another line from DNA has the person's mother as a Robinson, and the outcome is a William Robinson, not the same Robinson line.  This DNA match is even closer to me the the one with John K. Robinson b: 1819.  This goes to Diane Robinson, Richard, Arthur, David, Jacob, John S.1765, Leonard Robinson, Sgt  b: 1736,  Samuel, Captain, Samuel, William b: 1640 Bristol, England, William Robinson, b: 1614 Canterbury, Kent, England.  These last DNA ladies that connect to me connect to each other as well via DNA.

My 2 ladies, both sharing the same name of Cheryl (my first cousin is Charlotte Robinson who we call Cherie) and my brother and myself and my Charlotte's brother, Ken all share the same segment on chromosome #1 of 12 to 15cMs.  So somehow we share the same Robinson line as well.  I have made a mistake somewhere.  DNA doesn't lie.

5/14/19 So I've tried to rectify my error. The problem was the father of Jacob H. Robinson being the wrong John Robinson.  I found another that seems to do even better with him leading to the Scottish George Robinson of Glasgow, Scotland like the others.  This is a John Robinson b: 1769 in Tolland, Connecticut and died in Shoreham, Vermont, about 84 miles away from Bakersfield Vermont.  He even had a David Robinson as a son.  (This is how we all make errors in our genealogy.  It's hard to tell at times who is who.  Oh, if everyone had a brand of their Y haplogroup, which they do if tested, but I would like one more visible.  This John was already in my tree.  So I traded the other John S Robinson b: 1765 for this John Robinson b: 1769.  They both ended up in Vermont.
                                                                     

Massasoit smoking a ceremonial pipe with Governor John Carver in Plymouth 1621.

Chauncey Alexander was alone on my tree, one of 2 Alexanders.  The other was born about 100 years later.  I followed Chauncey's ancestors all the way back to a Peter Alexander b: 1650 in Massachusetts and found out that his father was Wamsutta Alexander Wampanoag Sachem born in 1634-5 at Pokanoket, Bristol, Rhode Island.  Yes, I was thinking of the Pilgrims landing in Massachusetts after sailing in 1620 from Holland.  I thought, this must be the last ancestor, checked, and found Wamsutta's father.  It was Massasoit Ousamequin born in 1575.  "Massasoit Sachem or Ousamequin (c. 1581 – 1661) was the sachem or leader of the Wampanoag tribe. The term Massasoit means Great Sachem.  Massasoit Ousamequin lived in Montaup, a Pokanoket village in Bristol, Rhode Island. He held the allegiance of a number of lesser Pokanoket sachems.
 All this was found through family search from their posted tree information.  
                                                                         

Anne Hyde

I have Hyde as an important surname on my mother's tree.  It's a long story but I have a Deborah Hyde married to Amos Benton Robinson, both born in 1734. One of their sons was Amos Robinson III b: 1767 in Grafton, Connecticut and wife  Elizabeth Hughes.  One of his sons was Cyrus Robinson that I selected as my ggrandfather's father.  Cyrus B Robinson was born in 1808 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont.  His wife was Thankful Preston.  Cyrus is a direct descendant of George Robinson of Glasgow, Scotland.  Whew!   Cyrus had been my 1st choice, but now I have chosen John Robinson who is also on this Glasgow, Scotland Robinson tree. 
                                                                   

James II of England  James II and VII was King of England and Ireland as James II and King of Scotland as James VII, from 6 February 1685 until he was deposed in the Glorious Revolution of 1688..

 Deborah Hyde leads to a Hyde that married one of the kings of England. It was Anne Hyde.  Descendants of ANNE HYDE

1  ANNE HYDE b: March 22, 1637/38 in Cranbourne Lodge, Windsor in Berkshire,Windsor, England d: April 10, 1671 in London, England
.. +King James, II, Duke of York and VII b: October 14, 1633 in St. James Palace, London, England, HOUSE OF STUART d: September 16, 1701 in St. Germain-en-Laye, France

"The House of Stuart, originally Stewart, was a European royal house of Scotland with Breton origin.^[2] They had held the office of High Steward of Scotland since Walter FitzAlan in around 1150. The royal Stewart line was founded by Robert II whose descendants were kings and queens of Scotland from 1371 until the union with England in 1707. Mary, Queen of Scots was brought up in France where she adopted the French spelling of the name Stuart."
 That connection also leads to George Robinson of Glasgow, Scotland, thank goodness, though I had selected the wrong father-still could be the right one as far as I know for sure which was an Amos Robinson III b: 1767 and wife Elizabeth which led to Abiathar's father being a Cyrus B. Robinson b: 1808 with wife Thankful Preston.  Abiathar was born in 1829.  Anyway, back to the importance of Hyde.

On 2 March 1651/52, Nicholas Hyde was fined 25 pounds, a severe penalty, for selling a gun to an Indian, with confusing evidence.  He was also ordered to satisfy Chief Massasoit about a gun that he probably sold to him of which he was not satisfied with.  The implication was that it was all right for Massasoit to have a gun.  My past notation on Nicholas Hyde was (1/26/12 Sir Nicholas Hyde, who was to hold the office of Chief Justice of the King's Bench between 1627 and 1631).

There is one Alexander listed in the book, Plymouth Colony, published by Ancestry.  He was a John Alexander, listed as a man found guilty on 6 August 1637 of lewd behavior, page 201.  His punishment was to be severely whipped and burned on the shoulder with a hot iron and to be perpetually banished from the colony, and to be whipped again anytime he might be found in the colony.  The book goes into the lewd behavior that he was being punished for.

Alexander is a surname originating in Scotland. It is originally an Anglicised form of the Scottish Gaelic MacAlasdair. It is a somewhat common Scottish name, and the region of Scotland where it traditionally is most commonly found is in the Highlands region of Scotland

My mother wanted so much to find royalty in her family.  That's why she encouraged me to do genealogy.  She had no idea that an Anne Hyde would become part of royalty or that by roundabout family marriages we would be able to have Chief Massasoit on our tree.  
                                                                   
Further checking on Scottish Robinsons produced: " A descendant of one of the Kings of Scotland, by the name of James Robinson, resided in a beautiful town in Scotland called at the time, Blarefatte, but after the rebellion, it was called by another name.  (JH typist note: Blarefatte still exists and was visited by both my mother and her brother, grandchildren of Marquis D. Robinson.) 
In Ireland, Robinson is only really common in Ulster. The two names had been used interchangeably in some areas of the province around the beginning of the 20th century. It can also be an Anglicization of such Jewish surnames as Rabinowitz and Rubinstein.

In searching for famous Scottish Robinsons, I came across this Scotsman and was pleased to see it.  Thought not a Robinson, he helped my Jewish relatives and I to have a chance populating Palestine once again in the creation of Israel with his Balfour Doctrine.    Arthur James Balfour (First Earl of Balfour) (1848 - 1930)
Born in East Lothian. A member of the Conservative party. Held several political positions, and was elected as British Prime Minister in 1902. He remained in office until 1906.
Update 5/15/19 : In checking for Native American DNA, my male 1st cousin-son of my mother's brother, has -1% of native American DNA.  It could be from Massasoit.  I have none.  Luckily, he has 2 areas to check in FTDNA; his own personal and his Y haplogroup information of which he is  R-L21.

Read more: Famous Scottish People https://www.scottish-at-heart.com/famous-scottish-people.html#ixzz5nv2xmB5e
Resource: 23 and me
My genealogy tree
Ancestry.com
Family Search (LDS)
Book, Plymouth Colony, Its History and People,
published by ancestry.,  by Eugene Aubrey Stratton
   Massasoit; pp; 22,23,25,67,77,102,108
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Stuart

Nadene Goldfoot                                                                     

A new fact I have just been introduced to is that the British got rid of their political prisoners by shipping them all over to the new world during the same period my ancestor was reported to have come over.  Our DNA matches a good 20 Irish people on Family Tree DNA.  Our allele #393 is a 12.  This is rare in the R1b grouping.  It seems to be pointing to the Irish, all right.
                                                                               
The history is that the Irish came over as actual slaves!  Some may want to call them indentured servants, but "from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle." They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands.  Men, women and tiny children were sent out of Britain to  America.
                                                                           
 When they rebelled or disobeyed an order, they were harshly punished.  Slave owners would hang them by their hands and then set their hands or feet on fire as a punishment.  They were burned alive.  Their heads were stuck on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.
                                                                       
It was King James II and Charles I that led their people to make slaves out of the Irish.  Oliver Cromwell dehumanized these people who lived right next door to them.  King James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World.  It was his Proclamation of 1625 that required Irish political prisoners to be sent oversees and sold to English settlers in the West Indies.  By the mid 1600's, the Irish were the main slaves sold in Antigua and Montserrat.  Then 70% of their population were Irish slaves.

From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English.  Another 300,000 were sold as slaves.  Ireland's population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one decade.   Britain didn't allow the fathers to take their wives and children with them, leaving homeless women and children in Britain so their solution was to auction them off as well.
                                                                             
During the 1650's, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10-14 were taken from their parents and sold not only in the West Indies but also to Virginia and New England.  Pictured here is a British slave ship.  

Black slaves were competitors, meaning the owners selling them were competing with each other.  They were more expensive to buy and so often treated better than the Irish slaves.  In the early 1600's Black slaves cost 50 Sterling.  Irish were no more than 5 Sterling.  It was not a crime to beat one to death..  The Irish masters began breeding the Irish women for both their own pleasure and better profit.  If a woman was able to buy her freedom, her children were still slaves and could not leave with her, so the mothers would remain as slaves.

The next way to get more profits was to breed the Irish women even as young as 12 with the Black men. These mulatto slaves cost more.  This went on for several decades.  In 1681, legislation was passed "forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men to make slaves for sale.  It was passed because this practice was interfering with the profits of a large slave transport company.

England had shipped tens of thousands of Irish slaves for over a century.  After the 1798  Irish Rebellion, thousands were sold to America and Australia and all slaves were being abused.  One British ship dumped 1,302 slaves into the Atlantic Ocean so the crew could have enough food to eat.

Is this the way our Robinson ancestor came over?  Is it possible he, with all the matching Irish genes, was not a British Puritan?

Somehow, Britain in 1839 finally ended transporting slaves.  English pirates did continue as they did as they wanted.

From what I've read, most slaves went to the Islands to slave in the sugar plantations, or to the southern part of the USA in Virginia.  I don't think as many went to New England but some did.

One of the Robinsons in the USA whose ancestor was John, born in South Carolina,   did "Migration to America-England, Scotland, Ireland, America,  from Robinson Roundup which I am reading.  Their ancestors were also Scotch-Irish, but originated in England.  Later, they had migrated to Scotland and then migrated later to northern Ireland in 1610 because King James I of England offered a colony of Scottish Protestant Lowlanders free land in Ulster, Ireland.  It was later confiscated from the native Irish Catholics because of their bitter hostility towards the British Crown.  King James wanted to establish a colony of people with strong loyalty for the English.  The Scottish Lowlanders had intense racial pride and would not intermarry with the Irish.  They also were the most uncompromising of Protestants and would not convert to Catholicism.

Between 1610 and 1620, 40,000 Scotch Presbyterians were settled in Ulster, Ireland.  New laws passed in Ireland caused the Scotch-Irish immigration to America which didn't start until 1718.  My Robinson's, according to my grandfather's oral history,  were supposed to have come over after the Mayflower ship sailed in 1620, which could have been on one of the ships in the 1630 fleet, or even before that between 1620-1630.  It's most possible, though, that they were of English origins that had migrated to Ireland.  He had dropped out of school when he ran away from home at age 16-18, so I don't think he learned this in school.  More likely it had been something he heard in his family.  He was born in 1870.

Robinson has been found in records to be spelled as Roberson, as it was for mine in a few places.  That's easy as the e and r could be miswritten for the i and n in cursive writing.  Also, it's been seen as Robson, Robeson, and Robertson.  In 1790 in the USA there were the 37th most popular surname.  4,652 Robinsons were counted.  Now it's about 22nd with 435,000 adult Robinsons in America.  No wonder I'm having a hard time finding our great great grandfather, the father of Abiathar Smith Robinson born December 1829 possibly in Vermont or New York.

In England, Robinsons had come from Bart, Berks, Cheshire, Oxford, Durham, Middlesex, Stafford, Tottenham, Lincoln, Northcumberland, Kentwall, Hall, Suffolk, York, Leicester and London and of course in Scotland and Ireland as well.  I also found that my DNA match had traced his family to Meppershall, Bedfordshire, England, so they came from where they had last lived.
                                                                 
 
We belong to the R-L21 and Subclades on FamilyTreeDNA.  I looked at the colored Project Y-DNA results under the group of R-L21 which is a chart of all the alleles of all the people, and I counted 28 people starting with #393 allele as a 12.  There are only two of us with the surname of Robinson, and we have a distance of 5, matching most all our alleles more than with anyone else.  I saw a few others listing Ireland as their origin.

Resource:  http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl?md=read;id=1638
http://www.robinsonroundup.com/book/Chapter1.pdf
http://www.landofthebrave.info/indentured-servants.htm