Robinson Genealogy

Given that DYS393 apparently has an extremely low mutation rate, WHY do the DYS393=12 participants seem to exhibit some characteristics atypical of the general population of west European ancestry? Such as some indication that some of them belong to Blood Group B... which is of ASIAN origin. Such as appearing to be rooted in Ulster and along the Anglo-Scottish Border, rather than eastern Europe or western Asia. Are they in fact not properly classified as R1b? This is information from the Border Reivers group of dna tested people of R1b's with a 393=12 and not the general 13 allele. This makes us rather special.

According to the results I have for our R1b lineage, we had 20 hits in Ireland. I see that evidently there are others with this dys 393=12 that are from Scotland, but they must vary from our results in other alleles. I guess I'll have to go for that last step in dna haplogroup testing to get to the bottom of this.

Resource: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegalstrongs/dnareivers.htm

Labels: Border Reivers, DYS 393=12, Scots

Donna Robinson heard from William Robinson on this one. He has a page about DYS 393=12, which our family of Robinsons has. That makes this very exciting. Go to this and read about it.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegalstrongs/dnareivers.htm

7/30/10 William stated in an email that: My Robinson line migrated from Henrico Virginia through the CumberlandGap to Temperance Hall Tennessee in 1797. Cumberland Robinson was born on Cumberland mountain in August of that year. Two books which have some info are Temperance Hall Remembers and The History of DeKalb Co,Tennessee. Most of the information found on the web. Perhaps you'llfind a name linkage.

I'm quite sure that our New England Robinsons is not connected to these southern Robinsons, but if there was a Kentucky connection, it would be possible. My grandfather had a brother who was said to have moved to Kentucky. Our hits have been in Ireland but not Scotland, even though we have a dys 393=12.

Labels: DYS 393=12

"Most of these haplotypes appear to originate from areas of Britain
near the Antonine Wall, Hadrian's Wall and other places of Roman fortification or settlement.
These areas include Galloway, Dumfries, Ayrshire and The Borders in Scotland, and
Cumbria, Yorkshire, Lancashire, Shropshire and Staffordshire in England.
Many of the Roman troops stationed in these areas came from Southeastern Europe
or Western Asia. They included Sarmatians, Dacians, Goths, Syrians, Mesopotamians,
Thracians and Anatolians. The Capelli study has shown that these areas also exhibit higher
than average frequencies of haplogroups E3b and J2, neither of which is native to Britain.
E3b is found most commonly in North Africa, Iberia, the Mediterranean and the Near East,
and J2 occurs most frequently in the Near East, the Mediterranean and Western Asia."

I think what this article is saying is that our DNA was carried by Romans working in Britain and that's how our ancestor came from someplace in England, whether it was Ireland or England. Who would have thought our ancestor would have been someone other than a tribal member of Britain? I'm not sure we fit the definition of haptlotype 35, but we do have the DYS#393=12, which is necessary for this and we are of R1b1b2 haplogroup.

Reference: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gallgaedhil/haplo_r1b_ht35_analysis.htm

Labels: Britain, DYS 393=12, Romans