Saturday, September 25, 2010
Theory About Roman Soldiers Just Theory
Today I was just informed that not everyone agrees with the theory that our DYS#393=12 stems from Roman soldiers living in Great Britain who were Sarmatians. This often happens. Science is giving us the facts about the dna but it doesn't come along with a book about just exactly had this dna long ago. Thus, theories come about. Sounded good to me, and certainly opened up a lot of history that I didn't know about about Roman soldiers.
Another e-mail revealed some background. "
Border Reivers were raiders along the Anglo–Scottish border from the late 13th century to the end of the 16th century. Their ranks consisted of both Scottish and English families, and they raided the entire border country without regard to their victims' nationality. Their heyday was perhaps in the last hundred years of their existence, during the Tudor dynasty in England.
Nice bunch of ancestors to have - sounds a bit like modern street gangs, or previously Vikings, but 14th-15th century style and mounted on horses."
We know that DYS#393 =12 shows that our distant ancestor came from an area further east than all the other R1b1b2's who have DYS#393=13. The Sarmatians were in the Roman army. They did pick up other peoples to serve. We'll just have to wait and hope that something more difinitive comes along.
Re: e-mail today from member of ISOGG
Another e-mail revealed some background. "
Border Reivers were raiders along the Anglo–Scottish border from the late 13th century to the end of the 16th century. Their ranks consisted of both Scottish and English families, and they raided the entire border country without regard to their victims' nationality. Their heyday was perhaps in the last hundred years of their existence, during the Tudor dynasty in England.
Nice bunch of ancestors to have - sounds a bit like modern street gangs, or previously Vikings, but 14th-15th century style and mounted on horses."
We know that DYS#393 =12 shows that our distant ancestor came from an area further east than all the other R1b1b2's who have DYS#393=13. The Sarmatians were in the Roman army. They did pick up other peoples to serve. We'll just have to wait and hope that something more difinitive comes along.
Re: e-mail today from member of ISOGG
Labels: Border Reivers, English, Roman soldiers, Sarmatians, Scots
Friday, July 30, 2010
Robinson's 393=12 , Blood Type and Scots or Irish Descent
Given that DYS393 apparently has an extremely low mutation rate, WHY do the DYS393=12 participants seem to exhibit some characteristics atypical of the general population of west European ancestry? Such as some indication that some of them belong to Blood Group B... which is of ASIAN origin. Such as appearing to be rooted in Ulster and along the Anglo-Scottish Border, rather than eastern Europe or western Asia. Are they in fact not properly classified as R1b? This is information from the Border Reivers group of dna tested people of R1b's with a 393=12 and not the general 13 allele. This makes us rather special.
According to the results I have for our R1b lineage, we had 20 hits in Ireland. I see that evidently there are others with this dys 393=12 that are from Scotland, but they must vary from our results in other alleles. I guess I'll have to go for that last step in dna haplogroup testing to get to the bottom of this.
Resource: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegalstrongs/dnareivers.htm
According to the results I have for our R1b lineage, we had 20 hits in Ireland. I see that evidently there are others with this dys 393=12 that are from Scotland, but they must vary from our results in other alleles. I guess I'll have to go for that last step in dna haplogroup testing to get to the bottom of this.
Resource: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegalstrongs/dnareivers.htm
Labels: Border Reivers, DYS 393=12, Scots
