Friday, October 13, 2017
Chasing the "Smith" in Abiathar Smith Robinson to JOSEPH SMITH, Mormon
Nadene Goldfoot
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| Abiathar Smith Robinson 1829-1904 Younger picture from 2nd cousin Tom |
I'm on another tangent today of still delving into the mystery of who Abiathar Smith Robinson's parents really are because I have no hard evidence, great theories. He appeared in my maternal grandfather's bible as the father of Grandfather Frank Hugh Robinson, my mother's father. Frank ran away from home at about age 16 according to his oral history over his father not letting him remove his horse from a pasture where the bull had entered. It was on a Sunday and his father wouldn't allow it. Thus Frank removed himself forever from his family. He did try to locate them later in life, but he said the building of records had burned down. However, I had found him living next door to one of his sisters later on during his first marriage. It must have been after that that he lost communication with anyone. So we have never learned more about the family other than Abiathar, born December 1829 was very strict religiously. He hasn't appeared on any records other than 1852 marriage, and 1870, 1880, 1900 census. Being born before 1850 is hard on me as his name was not on any census and this means that his father could have been but he was just a tally mark. No name. He missed being on any 1850 census or ancestry.com would have found it. I've hunted online for over 10 years and he hasn't showed up. A Waterman cousin, professional librarian, hunted in person, going to county offices, and couldn't find hide nor hair of him.
Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 1829 in New York or Vermont according to census information was married to Julia Ann Tuller in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont on February 29, 1852, which is very close to Royalton, Vermont where she was born and raised.
Tunbridge is full of Robinsons and Tullers and Durkees who are buried there according to my source, findagrave.com. Now I find a Smith Cemetery there as well. Only 2 people are buried there.
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| Too small to be tended by anyone |
To find the graves of the 2 people here, From Tunbridge village go north on VT Route 110 about 1/4 mile and turn right onto Strafford Road just before you cross the highway bridge. Go about 3-3/4 miles on Strafford Road and turn left onto County Turnpike. Go about 6/10 mile to Bicknell Road. Turn right onto Bicknell Road and go about 1 mile and drive a short distance up the hill beyond Larkin Road. The cemetery is on the left being located at the edge of a pasture, the plot surrounded by an electric cattle fence. It is said that there are seven graves with the first burial dated 1807 and the last in 1881. That was probably Major Smith who was buried that year.
Alma Andrus Smith was born June 10, 1805 and died January 6, 1853. Her husband was Major Smith, also buried there.
Major Smith was born November 14, 1804 and died September 23, 1881. His parents were Joseph and Hannah Fifield. This information and the following is from the Tunbridge section in Hamilton Child, Gazetteer of Orange County, Vermont 1762-1888: "Major SMITH, remained in this town and cared for his parents in their old age. He always lived here, and is buried in the family burying-ground on the old farm. Of his children, two sons and one daughter, Azro A., the eldest, is pastor of the Congregational church at Johnson, and the daughter died in 1863, leaving, one child."
Hanna Fifield Smith was Major Smith's mother. Hannah married Joseph Smith at Gilmanton, Belknap, NH on 23 Feb 1794 with Rev. Isaac Smith officiating.
Joseph Smith, developer of the Mormon Religion, was from Gilmanton, Belknap, New Hampshire . Was his mom Joseph Smith's daughter in law? Information below is from "findagrave.com"
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Son Major Smith
| Birth: | Nov. 14, 1804 Tunbridge Orange County Vermont, USA |
| Death: | Sep. 23, 1881 Tunbridge Orange County Vermont, USA |
Major was the son of Joseph and Hannah (Fifield) Smith. This information and the following is from the Tunbridge section in Hamilton Child, Gazetteer of Orange County, Vermont 1762-1888: "Major SMITH, remained in this town and cared for his parents in their old age. He always lived here, and is buried in the family burying-ground on the old farm. Of his children, two sons and one daughter, Azro A., the eldest, is pastor of the Congregational church at Johnson, and the daughter died in 1863, leaving, one child." Family links: of Major Smith Parents: Joseph Smith Hannah Fifield Smith Spouse: Alma Andrus Smith (1805 - 1853)* | |
THE Mormon Joseph Smith, however, was born in Sharon, Windsor, Vermont on December 23, 1805.
Mary A. Robinson, b: May 3 1834 married a Smith and died in Sharon, Vermont December 23, 1872 of stomach inflamation. Mary was the daughter of Cyrus B Robinson b: November 4, 1808 and Thankful Preston b: October 28, 1811 of Royalton, Vermont. Cyrus is a good candidate for being Abiathar Smith Robinson's father, being the right age and in the right place.
"May 16, 2014 - Family experiences may have shaped Joseph Smith's questions about God, ... The new Smith family lived at the Tunbridge farm for six years before Joseph determined to ... the family moved again to Tunbridge, then to Royalton, Vermont. ... Here, with Don Carlos's birth, the family grew—but little else did."
Joseph met his wife, Lucy Mack, through her brother, Stephen Mack. "To distract her from her grief, Stephen Mack invited Lucy to stay with him at his home in Tunbridge, Vermont. There, Lucy’s "depressed" mood began to change after she became acquainted with a tall, strong 23-year-old named Joseph Smith. Joseph and Lucy were married on January 24, 1796."
For months, Lucy and the children waited in Norwich, Vermont hoping for good news from him. At length, Joseph Smith Sr. sent word for his family to join him in a town called Palmyra, over 300 miles away in the fertile, wheat-growing Genesee country of New York.
I found a Moses Robinson in the Genesee, Allegany, New York area who was already on my tree leading to a 1600 George Robinson, not the Reverend John of the Pilgrims boarding the Mayflower. This was the line I had first thought our genealogy would lead us. A Smith girl could have married or had an affair with a Robinson boy from this area where Abiathar could have been born. But I'm counting on him being connected to the Reverend John Robinson line as his DNA is leading me to believe.
Tunbridge's Durkee Cemetery- 64 interred
Going back to Tunbridge, there are a few Smiths on record there with findagrave.com. Emily Nelson Smith born in 1820 and died on January 2, 1900 is buried in the Durkee Cemetery. Julia Ann Tuller, Abiathar's wife's mother was Asenith Durkee. The Smith middle name very likely is for her. Her husband was Pvt. George W. Smith born August 13, 1822 and died December 29,1921 in Tunbridge. George was born in Peru, Maine and was senile at death. He lived all his life in Maine, but was boarding with Joseph and Mary Fay in Strafford, Orange Vermont on June 4, 1900 when the census was taken.This took place 5 months after his wife had died. He was 77 years old then and was a widower. He was listed as a farm laborer. The question I ask is why are they buried in the Durkee Cemetery if all their life was spent in Maine?
I found an Emily Nelson on the 5th August 1870 census of Strafford, Orange, Vermont. On it was Levi Nelson, 85, wife Mary 80, and Aaron Nelson 53 and Emily Nelson 44 who could have been Aaron's wife. That means that Aaron could have later died and Emily was a 2nd wife to George W. Smith. I doesn't explain the Smith middle name of my 1829 born ggrandfather, Abiathar Smith Robinson. I saw that below their names was listed Joseph and Mary Fay! I don't have them in my name bank, but I do have many Fays. Fays have married Robinsons in Bennington, Vermont.
John Robinson b: 1803 d: May 20, 1870 was born and died in Tunbridge and buried here. I've long thought that could have been the John Robinson living with Julia Ann Tuller's family in Royalton, VT found on the 1850 census with Julia and her family. I thought perhaps he was Abiathar's father. They had given his age as 51 then, making his birth 1799 on the census.
Robinson Cemetery
I found 2 Joseph Fays buried in the Robinson Cemetery in Strafford, Orange, Vermont.
Joseph L. Fay with headstone was born about 1808 and died at age 62 on November 5, 1870.
Joseph Fay with headstone was born 1843 and died at age 81 in 1924.
Fays number 12 in this cemetery:
Bartletts, 5 of them are buried here. They are Abiel, Charles H, Rebekah, Ruth and Samuel. Bartletts are also on my DNA match of segments on chromosomes who is a 3rd cousin.
Durkee-3 of them are here.
Robinson-24 are here.
I might be able to connect everyone in this cemtery to either Abiathar or most likely Julia Tuller, his wife. It could even turn out that the John Robinson living with them was a relative from Tunbridge! Good grief! I never thought of that.
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| Wallace and Julia Smith, a Pioneer Family in 1800 (no relation). |
Smith is worse than Robinson. Robinson was the 16th most popular surname, now has dropped to the 20th. Smith is number 1. " If you have a Smith in your family, you have a staggering 81 million records to pore through on Ancestry. Smith has long been the most common surname in both the United States and Great Britain. Each U.S. census lists more and more Smiths, from 274,919 in 1850 to 2,376,206 in 2000. Yet the name is far from generic and has a rich and complicated history." Robinson can also be a Jewish name, and I through my father, am Jewish. Clark, which is on the Robinson tree, is number 21 in popularity.
I've always wondered about the Smith middle name. Usually it means the parent of the mother, and that Mom was a Smith. Look at this common pattern, part of the family below:
Descendants of Harvey A. Robinson
1 Harvey A. Robinson b: August 23, 1821 d: March 13, 1866 in Hume, Allegheny, New York
.. +Elizabeth Fuller b: 1824 d: 1856
. 2 Hubbard Fuller Robinson b: 1856 d: 1891
So is my Abiathar Smith Robinon's mother the daughter of Hannah Smith married to THE Joseph Smith of the Mormon religious history? Being Abiathar married in Tunbridge, it's possible in not a huge coincidence.
Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith
https://history.lds.org/article/historic-sites-palmyra-vermont-new-york?lang=eng
https://blogs.ancestry.com/cm/smith-a-short-history-of-americas-most-popular-surname/
https://www.thoughtco.com/most-common-us-surnames-1422656
Labels: Abiathar Smith Robinson, Bartlett, Durkee, Fay, genealogy, Joseph Smith, Strafford, Tunbridge, Vermont
Tuesday, April 11, 2017
Chosen Through DNA Matches, Abiathar Smith Robinson's Father
Ah, shucks. It has taken DNA matches to veer me straight into Abiathar Smith Robinson's father and he isn't a John after all. It has to be Israel Robinson born in 1800 which isn't far off of the pre-thought John Robinson, living in Julia Ann Tuller's home in 1850 in Royalton Vermont that I thought might be his father. This line is connected to the 17 Bartletts we have, and a lot of Smiths connected to them. It was the Robinson and Bartlett surnames that led me to someone I had matched several years ago on 23& Me, and now we had both moved over to Family Tree DNA and have been really working on it. Between here and GedMatch and trying our hand at triangulation with another match, we finally found a connection on the tree.
The oral history of Abiathar coming from NY seems to hold water now. I don't know what I"ll do about other stories like the Rix part of the family. Maybe that will connect. One can see from this tree that people had more than 2 children long ago, so maybe there's also another path other than all this one that will connect.
No, Israel is going to head straight to THE JOHN RobinsonREVEREND and BRIDGET WHITE who sent Pilgrims living in Holland to America on the Mayflower after all. What I'm going to do about our DNA DYS 393 being a 12, and not a 13, I don't know. but we match a DNA match found on FTDNA, and this is science. I cannot ignore this match that we have with myself, my brother and 1st male cousin. We're collecting more matches besides to ultimately connect to our tree through DNA. I'll show our tree from Major Ebenezer Robinson:
PS, I see this line also holds another try at Abiathar's father where I show Abiathar in blue. I once thought that the James Robinson could have been his father.
Descendants of Ebenezer Robinson, Major
1 Ebenezer Robinson, Major b: February 07, 1735/36 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts Bay, English Colony d: February 16, 1802 in Roxbury, Delaware, New York
.. +Ann Susanna Stone b: April 1741 in Framingham d: December 25, 1783
. 2 Ann Robinson b: Bef. June 05, 1757 in Carmel, Putnam, New York
. 2 Issachar Robinson b: April 26, 1761 in Frederickstown, Dutchess, New York d: February 06, 1850 in Middletown, Delaware, New York
..... +Huldah Willard b: 1768 in Pittstown, Rensselaer, New York d: 1800 in Roxbury, Delaware, New York
..... 3 Susanna Robinson b: Abt. 1783 d: 1855
......... +John Woolheater b: Abt. 1791
..... 3 Anna Robinson b: Abt. 1784
......... +Dingee Adams b: Abt. 1782
..... 3 Hannah Robinson b: Abt. 1785
......... +Ebenezer Sloat b: Abt. 1785
..... 3 Lewis Robinson b: Abt. 1787 d: in Lost At Sea
..... 3 Phoebe Robinson b: Abt. 1789
......... +Samuel Jenkins b: Abt. 1789
..... 3 James Robinson b: 1794 in Roxbury, Delaware, New York d: February 17, 1869 in Delaware, New York
......... +Elizabeth "Betsey" Redmond b: 1796 in New York d: in Delaware, New York
......... 4 [1] Patrick Robinson b: Abt. 1816 in Roxbury, Delaware, New York d: July 08, 1896 in Ulster, New York
............. +Melinda Ingraham b: 1825 in New York
......... *2nd Wife of [1] Patrick Robinson:
............. +Mary b: Abt. 1815 in New York
......... 4 Nicholas Robinson b: Abt. 1820 in Delaware County, New York d: June 19, 1864 in Point Lookout, Maryland
............. +Emaline Unknown b: Abt. 1820 in New York
......... 4 John R. Robinson b: Abt. 1821
......... 4 Harriet Robinson b: 1834 in New York
......... 4 Margaret Robinson b: Abt. 1837 in New York
..... 3 Daniel G. Robinson b: 1796 in Roxbury, Delaware, New York d: 1862
......... +Sophia Randall b: September 19, 1799 in prob. Roxbury, Delaware, New York
......... 4 Mary Robinson b: 1829 in prob. Roxbury, Delaware County, New York
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| Abiathar Smith Robinson with my grandfather, Frank Hugh Robinson |
......... 4 [2] Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 1829 in New York/ Tunbridge, Orange/ Jamaica, Windham, Vermont d: October 07, 1904 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
............. +[5] Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: December 02, 1887 in 52 yrs, 11mo. 14 day, Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
......... *2nd Wife of [2] Abiathar Smith Robinson:
............. +[6] Mary Jane Unknown Walters b: November 1832 in Ohio d: July 1918 in Streator, Illinois, age 85
......... 4 Irena Robinson b: 1835 in prob. Roxbury, Delaware County, New York
......... 4 Abigail Robinson b: 1839 in prob. Roxbury, Delaware County, New York
......... 4 Anna Robinson b: 1842 in prob. Roxbury, Delaware County, New York
......... 4 John H. Robinson b: 1844 in prob. Roxbury, Delaware County, New York d: March 29, 1863 in Alexandria, Fairfax, Virginia
..... 3 Catherine Robinson b: 1800 in Roxbury, Delaware, New York d: April 18, 1873 in Roxbury, Delaware, New York
......... +Samuel Vermilyea b: January 08, 1793 in prob. Roxbury, New York d: April 09, 1852 in prob. Roxbury, Delaware County, New York
..... 3 Elizabeth "Betsy" Robinson b: 1805
......... +Nathaniel Jenkins b: Abt. 1805
. 2 Ebenezer Louis Robinson, Jr. b: 1763 in Carmel, Putnam, New York d: Aft. 1805 in Ulster, New York
..... +Whippie b: Abt. 1763
. 2 Nathaniel Robinson b: 1763 d: Aft. 1785
..... +Fanny Burcham b: Abt. 1763
. 2 David Robinson, Rev. b: March 09, 1763 in Carmel, Putnam, New York d: February 26, 1835 in Virgil, Cortland, New York
..... +Elizabeth "Althea" Hunt b: January 15, 1769 in Virgil, Cortland, New York d: September 17, 1850 in Virgil, Cortland, New York
..... 3 Jemima Robinson b: April 25, 1786 in probably Roxbury, New York d: 1865 in Virgil, Cortland, New York
..... 3 Edward Robinson b: July 04, 1792 in Roxbury, Delaware, New York d: 1840
..... 3 Edmund Hunt Robinson b: September 07, 1793 in Roxbury, Delaware, New York d: August 27, 1851 in New York
......... +Mary (Polly) Elstor b: December 15, 1795 in Dover, Dutchess, New York d: August 13, 1872 in Makanda, Jackson, Illinois
..... 3 Isaac Robinson b: March 04, 1798 in Roxbury, Delaware, New York d: 1840
..... 3 [3] Gideon Robinson b: August 13, 1800 in Roxbury, Delaware, New York d: March 27, 1864 in Virgil, Cortland, New York
......... +Mary (Polly) Hammond b: August 04, 1800 in Burlingame, New York d: July 04, 1854 in Virgil, Cortland, New York
......... 4 Orin Oren Robinson b: January 31, 1824 in New York d: October 18, 1883 in Kansas
............. +Emily Shepherd b: Abt. 1838 in Ohio d: 1909
......... 4 Alvin Robinson b: May 31, 1830 in Cortland, New York d: March 09, 1906 in Danville, Vermillion, Illinois
............. +Mary Minerva Price b: March 1831 in New York d: 1914
......... 4 Charles Robinson b: July 13, 1834 in New York
......... 4 Sarah Robinson b: 1840 in New York
......... 4 Jasper Peck Robinson b: February 04, 1841 in New York d: April 10, 1916 in Topeka, Wd 5, Shawnee, Kansas
............. +Sarah Parsons b: 1846 in New York d: 1896 in Topeka, Wd 5, Shawnee, Kansas
..... *2nd Wife of [3] Gideon Robinson:
......... +Elizabeth b: 1810
......... 4 Harriet Robinson b: 1844
. 2 Stephen Robinson b: April 04, 1769 in Carmel, Putnam, New York d: September 13, 1832 in Bedford, Cuyahoga, Ohio
. 2 Hester Robinson b: 1774 d: 1782
..... +Samuel Bouton b: Abt. 1770
. 2 [4] DANIEL Robinson, Rev. b: March 22, 1771 in Carmel, Putnam, New York d: January 27, 1866 in Kattellville, Broome, Schoharie, New York
..... +Elizabeth Unknown Hall b: 1785 in Rhode Island
. *2nd Wife of [4] DANIEL Robinson, Rev.:
..... +Sarah Dodge b: Abt. 1771 d: June 01, 1801
. *3rd Wife of [4] DANIEL Robinson, Rev.:
..... +Susan Kelly b: Abt. 1771
..... 3 John Robinson b: Abt. 1792 in poss. New York d: 1840 in Virginia
..... 3 Alva Robinson b: Abt. 1793 in New York
..... 3 Nehemiah Robinson b: Abt. 1794
..... 3 ISRAEL ROBINSON b: April 20, 1800 in Roxbury, Delaware , NY d: November 05, 1857 in Chenango, Broome, NY
......... +Catherine Tracy b: 1800 in NY d: August 05, 1882 in Broome, New York
......... 4 EBENEZER GANONG Robinson b: May 1823 in Dutchess County, New York d: Aft. 1900 in Clark County, Washington
............. +Julia Ann Morse b: June 05, 1828 in Roxbury, Delaware, NY d: 1916 in Clark County, Washington
......... 4 Nathaniel Robinson b: 1825 in New York d: 1906 in Kattellville, Broome, New York
............. +Lavania Keeler b: 1829 in New York d: 1918 in Kattellville, Broome, New York
......... 4 JOHN K. ROBINSON b: Abt. 1826 in poss. Dutchess, New York d: in poss. Washington
............. +Lucinda Haskins b: Abt. 1830 d: in prob. Washington
......... 4 [2] Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 1829 in New York/ Tunbridge, Orange/ Jamaica, Windham, Vermont d: October 07, 1904 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
............. +[5] Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: December 02, 1887 in 52 yrs, 11mo. 14 day, Wenona, Marshall, Illinois
......... *2nd Wife of [2] Abiathar Smith Robinson:
............. +[6] Mary Jane Unknown Walters b: November 1832 in Ohio d: July 1918 in Streator, Illinois, age 85
......... 4 Susan C. Robinson b: 1838 in New York
..... 3 Lewis Robinson b: October 27, 1802 in Roxbury, Delaware/ prob, NY
..... 3 Daniel Robinson b: December 18, 1804 d: January 21, 1864 in Kattelville, Broome, New York
..... 3 Mary Robinson b: November 07, 1807 in Otsego, New York d: April 13, 1854 in Kattelville, Brome, New York
..... 3 Charlotte Robinson b: September 01, 1814 in Franklin, New York
Some people don't understand why we pursue such a hobby as genealogy. Well, it's personal. It's our family and who we come from. It's why we laugh or cry, feel nervous or sad or happy. We are made up of certain people throughout the ages and inherit some of their traits as well as their faults, problems, etc. Now, the finding of others, knowing we share something of ourselves with them, is detective work. It's solving a puzzle work. It's so exciting to track down a clue. The ultimate now is to have their picture and information automatically click into my tree once I find where they belong on my FTDNA tree !
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