Tuesday, April 18, 2023

 

Abiathar Smith Robinson's Father Remains Unknown-One Last Possibility

 Nadene Goldfoot                                        

                      Abiathar and 9th child Frank Hugh b; June 21, 1870                                                  Sitting on a bale of hay

Abiathar's children were:  Edward Rix, Edgar Clyde or Clayton, Abiathar W, Nellie Elizabeth, Emma "Hattie", John C, Julia, William S, Frank Hugh, Minnie J and Arthur Roy Robinson.                               

Abiathar belonging to the 11th child, Arthur Roy Robinon's daughter, Leola Marie's son, Tom, an earlier version of Abiathar with darker hair. That's a cousin of ours who has turned up through genealogy.

After talking to cousin Tom, I've switched from Amos as Abiathar's father to John Robinson, farmer in the Tuller home of 1850.  All the indications were there, and my only problem now is that I don't know who his father was.  John is another dead end, but I'll search again.  Also, waiting for a Robinson who will have the same DNA as our Robinsons do.  That would be the clincher.  Here I go again!  

Descendants of JOHN ROBINSON
JOHN ROBINSON b: 1799 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont d: May 20, 1870 in North Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont Age at death: 71 est. Age at death: 71 est. Cause of death: DropsyDropsy - Edema (swelling), often caused by kidney or heart disease
. +ELVIRA Eliza WATERMAN b: January 1824 in Canada d: 1901 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont m: October 13, 1844 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont Age at death: 77 est. m: October 13, 1844 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont Age at death: 77 est.
.. [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 07, 1829 in Royalton/ Bennington, Bennington, VT/Jamaica, Windham,VT; / Cayuga, NY/ prob. Weathersfield, Windsor, Vermont d: October 07, 1904 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois Citizenship: November 13, 1769 Royalton chartered by New York Age at death: 74 Age at death: 74 Cause of death: Carbuncle on neck-for a month bothered him
...... +Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: December 02, 1887 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois m: February 29, 1852 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont by Justice of the Peace Alva Button Age at death: 52 m: February 29, 1852 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont by Justice of the Peace Alva Button Age at death: 52 Cause of death: Ovarian Dropsy or possibly cancer.
.. *2nd Wife of [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson:
...... +Mary Jane Deffenbaugh Walters b: November 27, 1832 in Hocking County, Ohio d: July 05, 1918 in Streator, LaSalle, Illinois, age 85 m: 1896 in prob. Wenona, Illinois Age at death: 85 m: 1896 in prob. Wenona, Illinois Age at death: 85
.. Alvira Elvira J. Robinson b: December 05, 1837 in Bath, New Hampshire d: March 29, 1883 in Barton,Vermont Age at death: 45 Age at death: 45
...... +Paul Cheney b: Abt. 1800 in Vermont d: August 15, 1870 in Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont m: November 30, 1853 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont Age at death: 70 est. m: November 30, 1853 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont Age at death: 70 est.
.. Lucius C.Robinson b: May 03, 1847 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont d: May 16, 1924 in Royalton,  Windsor, Vermont Age at death: 77 Age at death: 77 Cause of death: Mitral regugitation??
...... +Unknown
.. Hannah Robinson b: 1862 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
...... +Clarence Hayward b: 1850 in Randolph, Orange, Vermont d: April 10, 1897 in Vermont Age at death: 47 est. Age at death: 47 est.

Another is the descendant of Abiathar's 4th child, Nellie Elizabeth Robinson.  She had married Daniel C. McCullem and she was born Aug 15, 1857 in Upper Canada, going along with the knowledge that Abiathar and Julia Ann had moved there.  Daniel was son of John McCullem father of Daniel C. McCullem, father of Philip John McCullem who had a daughter, Shirley Rose McCullem and Sandra is the daughter of Shirley and is our cousin.   

At age 88 1/2, I still have not found my great grandfather's father.  I have found clues but they are a dead end. Abiathar Smith Robinson, b: December 7, 1829,  is not on any birth certificate or piece of paper on ancestry.com. A distant relative, Holly K. Waterman b: 1951-d:2014, married to Jed Betts,  living in Vermont scoured the countryside looking for it and didn't find it. She was librarian at the college as I remember, and had worked with me a lot.     

What I do know for sure is that he married Julia Ann Tuller in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont on February 29, 1852.  Also, there was a John Robinson, 51 years old,  living with Julia's family on the 1850 census who helped her father, Alonzo Charles Tuller/ar farm. There were other Robinsons in Tunbridge as well.   

6/19/10:  I noted back in 2010 this note:   On 1850 census was a John Robinson age 51 living with them.  Was he the father of Abaithar Smith Robinson?  Don't know who he was.  He was another with the very common name of John who was impossible to trace.  He was 51 and living with the Tullers, and had no wife which would have identified him on some census later.  

              Great grandson who did the DNA testing and wife

1850 was the first year that both men and women were listed on the census.  Before that, it was just the men.  

I did find the Tullers and Abiathar being friends.  They lived next door to each other on occasion that I found on census information.  

I chose Amos Robinson of Royalton,Windsor, Vermont as Abiathar's father as they were a prominent family of Royalton.  He was born December 28, 1797 in Royalton.  He was on the census from 1800 onward.  This Amos was son of another Amos Robinson of Royalton b: September 25, 1767 in Lebanon, New London, CT.  Amos of Royalton had a nice farm/ranch and Abiathar had horses, too.  Abiathar was strict religiously because one day Frank Hugh had forgotten that his horse was in a field, and somebody put the bull in the field which could kill the horse.  Frank Hugh wanted to get his horse out of the field but it was Sunday, and Abiathar wouldn't let him do it.  The horse got killed and our grandfather, Frank Hugh ran away from home, never to return.  It might make him happy-that my grandson, Dustin, is now a veterinarian.  

However, I've gone back and checked out the census again, and Abiathar is not on Amos's census or anyone else's.  He finally showed up at age 41 on the August 11, 1870 census of Wenona, Illinois with Julia and their children. They were next door to Albert Tuller, Julia's brother.   He was also on the June 7, 1880 Wenona, Illinois census at age 52 as A. Roberson  with Julia and same children, 10 years older.  Was he listed as Roberson or Robertson earlier?  Could be.  Abiathar died October 1904 in Wenona, Illinois.  He had remarried in 1896 to Mary Jane Deffenbaugh Walters, probably a neighbor, in Wenona.  Julia had died in 1887 in Wenona.  

The one good thing we have is the Y haplogroup/haplotype of Abiathar through 1st cousin Kenneth Robinson, son of my mother, Mildred Elizabeth Robinson's brother, Edward Kenneth Robinson, which has been labeled as R-L21 from the original label of R1b1a2.a1a1b4..and now, with the upgraded testing on February 26, 2020, of the BIG Y TEST, is labeled as R-FT111213, which was paid for by the Irish Fitzpatrick clan.org. who found that Ken and Dyer were a part of their group.  So, going way back, we have Irish roots, not Wales as Grandpa Frank Hugh Robinson had told us.  At least he thought it was Wales.  

The first names of Abiathar (high priest during King David's time) and Amos are from the Old Testament.  Their religion during this period was into the Old Testament, using such names for their children.  They also start with A, putting them first on any list.  

Update: 4/19/2023                 

I just hooked up Abiathar to a John Robinson of Calais, Washington, Vermont.  They are a direct line from each other, 36.7 miles apart.The only problem with this is that John is on both places 1850 census, but then 1850 has 365 days, and he could have moved during then to work for Tuller.  

Descendants of JOHN ROBINSON

[1] JOHN ROBINSON b: Bet. December 23, 1801 - 1802 in Calais, Washington, Vermont d: August 22, 1882 in Atherton, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts Age at death: 80 est. Age at death: 80 est.

. +LUCY Hodgkins b: 1811 in Vermont d: October 21, 1880 in Calais, Washington, Vermont Age at death: 69 est. Age at death: 69 est.

*2nd Wife of [1] JOHN ROBINSON:

. +Hannah Taylor b: 1803 in Vermont d: 1851 in Calais, Washington, Vermont m: Abt. 1823 in prob. Calais, Washington, Vermont Age at death: 48 est. m: Abt. 1823 in prob. Calais, Washington, Vermont Age at death: 48 est.

.. Emily E. Robinson b: 1829 could be a twin to Abiathar.  Abiathar was not on their list...

.. [2] Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 07, 1829 in Royalton/ Bennington, Bennington, VT/Jamaica, Windham,VT; / Cayuga, NY/ prob. Weathersfield, Windsor, Vermont d: October 07, 1904 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois Citizenship: November 13, 1769 Royalton chartered by New York Age at death: 74 Age at death: 74 Cause of death: Carbuncle on neck-for a month bothered him

...... +[3] Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: December 02, 1887 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois m: February 29, 1852 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont by Justice of the Peace Alva Button Age at death: 52 m: February 29, 1852 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont by Justice of the Peace Alva Button Age at death: 52 Cause of death: Ovarian Dropsy or possibly cancer.

.. *2nd Wife of [2] Abiathar Smith Robinson:

...... +[4] Mary Jane Deffenbaugh Walters b: November 27, 1832 in Hocking County, Ohio d: July 05, 1918 in Streator, LaSalle, Illinois, age 85 m: 1896 in prob. Wenona, Illinois Age at death: 85 m: 1896 in prob. Wenona, Illinois Age at death: 85

.. Erastus Edwin Robinson b: September 29, 1835 in Calais, Washington, Vermont d: February 28, 1915 in Calais, Washington, Vermont Age at death: 79 Age at death: 79

.. William Cummings Robinson b: June 09, 1838 in Calais, Vermont d: October 06, 1875 in Calais, Washington, Vermont Age at death: 37 Age at death: 37 Cause of death: drowning

...... +Coralinn "Corrie" E. Bliss b: 1840 in prob. Calais, Washington, Vermont d: 1919 in Calais, Washington, Vermont m: April 13, 1863 in Calais, Washington, Vermont Age at death: 79 est. m: April 13, 1863 in Calais, Washington, Vermont Age at death: 79 est.

*3rd Wife of [1] JOHN ROBINSON:

. +ELVIRA Eliza WATERMAN Cheney b: January 1824 in Canada d: 1901 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont m: October 13, 1844 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont Age at death: 77 est. m: October 13, 1844 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont Age at death: 77 est.

.. [2] Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 07, 1829 in Royalton/ Bennington, Bennington, VT/Jamaica, Windham,VT; / Cayuga, NY/ prob. Weathersfield, Windsor, Vermont d: October 07, 1904 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois Citizenship: November 13, 1769 Royalton chartered by New York Age at death: 74 Age at death: 74 Cause of death: Carbuncle on neck-for a month bothered him

...... +[3] Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: December 02, 1887 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois m: February 29, 1852 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont by Justice of the Peace Alva Button Age at death: 52 m: February 29, 1852 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont by Justice of the Peace Alva Button Age at death: 52 Cause of death: Ovarian Dropsy or possibly cancer.

.. *2nd Wife of [2] Abiathar Smith Robinson:

...... +[4] Mary Jane Deffenbaugh Walters b: November 27, 1832 in Hocking County, Ohio d: July 05, 1918 in Streator, LaSalle, Illinois, age 85 m: 1896 in prob. Wenona, Illinois Age at death: 85 m: 1896 in prob. Wenona, Illinois Age at death: 85

.. Alvira Elvira J. Robinson b: December 05, 1837 in Bath, New Hampshire d: March 29, 1883 in Barton,Vermont Age at death: 45 Age at death: 45

...... +Paul Cheney b: Abt. 1800 in Vermont d: August 15, 1870 in Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont m: November 30, 1853 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont Age at death: 70 est. m: November 30, 1853 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont Age at death: 70 est.

.. Lucius C.Robinson b: May 03, 1847 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont d: May 16, 1924 in Royalton,  Windsor, Vermont Age at death: 77 Age at death: 77 Cause of death: Mitral regugitation??

...... +Unknown

.. Hannah Robinson b: 1862 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont

...... +Clarence Hayward b: 1850 in Randolph, Orange, Vermont d: April 10, 1897 in Vermont Age at death: 47 est. Age at death: 47 est.

Oh oh, think I found the real John Robinson--in Canada and he's Irish !!!, but the 1850 US census says John living with the Tullers in 1850 was born in Vermont.  This fellow is interesting because our family did live in Canada after getting married.  

Name:John Robison
Age:72
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1799
Gender:Male
Birth Place:USA
Residence District:Hastings North
Residence Location:Rawdon
Ethnic Origin:Irish
Religion:Canada Presbyterian / C. Presbyterian
Occupation:Farmer
Division:2
Microfilm Roll:C-9993
Page:18
Head of Household Comment:This person is listed as a head of household.

Here's another in Maine, and we have DNA matches with James Alton Robinson in Maine.  

 

Name:John Robinson
Gender:Male
Birth Date:19 Aug 1799
Death Date:19 Apr 1872
Cemetery:Village Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:South Thomaston, Knox County, Maine, United States of America
Has Bio?:N
Spouse:Nancy Robinson
Children:Elizabeth D. SewallJohn R. RobinsonJoseph B. Robinson
URL:https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/107235259/john-robinson





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