Sunday, February 11, 2018
Rockingham New Hampshire Robinsons: and Teres Fair's Babcock Connection to THE ROBINSON LINE
Abiathar Smith Robinson's picture from cousin Tom a younger Abiathar than our picture. |
We are blessed with my mother's maiden name of Robinson, the 16th most popular surname in the United States. Our ggrandfather was Abiathar Smith Robinson b: 1829 in Vermont. His wife was Julia Ann Tuller b: 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont. They married in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont right next door to Royalton in 1852. Abiathar was not on any census in Vermont in 1850, but Julia Ann and her parents were. They've been easy to trace. Not Abiathar. Not until DNA testing started opening some doors.
I should explain that I have been hunting Robinsons for years and years. I've had about a dozen conclusions about finding the right Robinson. Every Robinson in New England is in my Family Tree Maker software program. I have found so many interesting possibilities that I'd be proud to have each and every one for my ancestors.
On To Tonight's Search.
Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont |
Abiahar Smith Robinson and his son (my grandfather) Frank Hugh Robinson They were farmers and had horses. |
1st Cousins Kenny and myself |
One of my lady matches just told me to go back into Gedmatchcom and compare Ken with all the R-L21 men. This includes the old title of R1b1a2a1a1b4. Some people who entered there were using that title a few years ago.
I found 3 men. One had an interesting surname and I checked it in my name bank. I hit gold!
Descendants of Joseph Sanborn Robinson
1 [1] Joseph Sanborn Robinson b: May 28, 1812 in Brentwood, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: August 29, 1887 in Brentwood, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.. +Martha T. b: 1816 d: 1846
. 2 Loren S. Robinson b: 1840 d: February 22, 1842
*2nd Wife of [1] Joseph Sanborn Robinson:
.. +Angelina Towle b: June 04, 1816 d: July 17, 1784
. 2 Alfred I. Robinson b: 1849 d: 1849
Our Towle match turns out to be a 4th cousin, also found on FTDNA where we tested. By having a
DNA match with him and finding 3 people on the Tree with the same surname, I figure that
this is the tree we are from.
Descendants of John Towle
1 John Towle b: Abt. 1609 in Meppershal, Bedfordshire, England
.. +Alice Robinson b: Abt. 1616 in Meppershal, Bedfordshire, England
Update: 9:20am..In checking my past assumptions, the 1st one I had decided on was this one:
Descendants of AMOS Robinson IV
1 [1] AMOS Robinson IV b: December 28, 1797 in Royalton, Windsor County, Vermont d: August 07, 1871 in Menasha, Wisc-hit by lightening while helping another farmer-hay caused it. Occupation: 1860 Carpenter in Wisconsin
. +Betsey Davis b: 1795 in Royalton, Vermont d: September 15, 1824 in Brownell house, Broad Brook, Royalton, Vermont age 23
*2nd Wife of [1] AMOS Robinson IV:
. +LOIS SAFFORD b: December 04, 1800 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: 1882 in prob. Menasha Ward 1, Winnebago, Wisconsin
This is how they compare: Morgan Connection
1. Amos Robinson 1797 VT James Robinson 1800 VT Hiram Robinson 1799 VT
2. Amos 1767 CT David 1778 NH Amos 1767
3. Amos 1734 MA Chase 1737 NH Amos 1734
4. Amos 1711 MA Jonathan 1709 NH Amos 1711
5. Jacob 1680 MA John 1671 NH Jacob 1680
6 John 1641 MA Jonathan 1645 John 1641
John 1611
brothers, son of John 1611
7. JOHN 1611 ENG. JOHN 1611 ENG -(MEPPERSHALL)
My two ladies that match as us as 3rd cousins come out on the Pastor John Robinson of the Pilgrims Tree.
Yet, it's all much guesswork. Now I should go back and recheck references if possible.
March 3, 2018; I found another match to my brother's and my name but not to my Robinson cousin. It is Leno. He has Durkee and Robinson in his name bank. His Durkee turns out to be our 2nd great grandmother, Julia Ann Robinson's mother's mother. We are 5th cousins.
Descendants of Asenith Asinith Durkee
1 Asenith Asinith Durkee b: 1814 in Royalton, Windsor County, Vermont d: 1868 in Royalton, Windsor County, Vermont/Rockwell, Illinois
.. +Alonzo Charles Tuller b: October 22, 1809 in St. Albans, Vermont (Franklin County) d: January 29, 1870 in Rockwell, LaSalle, Illinois Occupation: 1850 Stone Mason
. 2 Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: December 02, 1887 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois Occupation: Housewife
..... +Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 1829 in New York/ Tunbridge, Orange/ Jamaica, Windham, Vermont d: October 07, 1904 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois Occupation: 1870 Laborer in Wenona, Illinois age 41
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This led me this on his tree, and I already had Asa Robinson on my tree with the same father of Peter.
This turned out on my tree to lead to the same Robinson line I had concluded was the right one, that led to Meppershall, England with a John Robinson.
Then the Durkee lead led me to this, that we also shared. It turns out that it is not the same Robinson line my other DNA ladies are on. That one seems to lead to the John Robinson who sent Pilgrims on the Mayflower. Our Robinsons connected at one point.
1 [1] Ralph Heman Durkee b: August 07, 1900 in Norwich, Windsor County, Vermont d: May 23, 1985 in Thetford, Orange, Vermont 05075 Occupation: 1923 Lumberman
.. +Beatrice Massci b: April 19, 1905 in Massachusetts d: May 24, 1980 in Thetford, Orange, Vermont 05075
*2nd Wife of [1] Ralph Heman Durkee:
.. +Beatrice Helene Goodrich b: Abt. 1902 in Waltham, Massachusetts d: May 24, 1980 in Lebanon, New Hampshire
Morgan Horse, from Justin Morgan symbol of Vermont |
Another set of parents that are more than plausible for Abiathar that would keep him on this same tree
of his Ydna matches is Hiram Robinson and Almira Morgan, daughter of the designer of the Morgan
Horse. Since James Robinson takes me to the same place that Hiram Robinson does, I'll stick with
James as the father. I've just discovered another match to my Robinson/Durkee family being Morgan
genes. This way my other 3rd cousin matches that have found their place on the tree are fine.
This does explain more to me about Abiather and his father's fight over Abiathar's horse being killed
in the field by the bull causing Abiathar to run away from home and never return. It might have been
a Morgan horse.
Descendants of HIRAM Robinson 1 HIRAM Robinson b: August 12, 1799 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: Bef. July 20, 1860 in Died at Sea/Sandy Creek, Oswego, NY Occupation: 1850 Millwright . +Almira Morgan b: Abt. 1804 in Rhode Island d: April 1888 in Sandy Creek, Oswego, NY .... 2 Albert H. Robinson b: December 1823 in Sandy Creek, Oswego, New York d: Aft. June 1905 in Richland-Pulaski, New York Occupation: 1850 Farmer ........ +Loretta "Moore" b: Abt. 1827 in New York d: Bef. June 1900 in Richland-Pulaski, Oswego, NY .... 2 [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson b: December 1829 in New York/ Tunbridge, Orange/ Jamaica, Windham, Vermont d: October 07, 1904 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois Occupation: 1870 Laborer in Wenona, Illinois age 41 ........ +Julia Ann Tuller b: December 18, 1834 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: December 02, 1887 in Wenona, Marshall, Illinois Occupation: Housewife .... *2nd Wife of [1] Abiathar Smith Robinson: ........ +Mary Jane Deffenbaugh Walters b: November 27, 1832 in Hocking County, Ohio d: July 05, 1918 in Streator, LaSalle, Illinois, age 85 .... 2 Caroline Robinson b: 1830 in New York d: in Illinois .... 2 George W. Robinson b: October 31, 1831 in New York d: September 24, 1915 in Sandy Creek, Oswego, NY Occupation: 1850 Carpenter ........ +Mary Ann Hamer b: November 1836 in New York d: Bef. April 1910 in Sandy Creek, Oswego, NY .... 2 Charles M. Robinson b: 1834 in New York d: Aft. September 1850 in Illinois .... 2 Amos D. Robinson b: 1837 in New York d: August 1870 in Medina, Peoria, Illinois age 33 Occupation: 1860 Farm laborer for Kline family ........ +Sarah Ann Preston b: Abt. 1837 .... 2 [2] Lafayette H. Robinson, Private, Reverend b: December 22, 1839 in Boylston, Oswego, New York d: July 17, 1916 in Camden, Oneida, New York Occupation: 1860 farm laborer for brother George W. Robinson ........ +Celestia Fassett b: 1847 in Prob. New York .... *2nd Wife of [2] Lafayette H. Robinson, Private, Reverend: ........ +Jane Finster b: Abt. 1840 in Schuyler .... *3rd Wife of [2] Lafayette H. Robinson, Private, Reverend: ........ +Belle Stevens b: 1877 in Camden, Oneida, New York .... 2 Joseph Robinson b: 1844 in New York d: Aft. September 1850 in Illinois
1 [1] Justin Morgan, Sr. b: February 28, 1746/47 in West Springfield, Massachusetts d: March 22, 1798 in Randolph, Orange, Vermont Occupation: Horse Breeder
.. +Elizabeth Unknown b: Abt. 1746 in Rhode Island d: Abt. 1864 in prob. Sandy Creek, Oswego, New York
. 2 [2] Justin Morgan, Jr. b: March 15, 1786 in West Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts d: May 04, 1853 in Stockbridge, Windsor County, Vermont Occupation: 1820 Two in commerce
..... +[3] Sarah "Sally" Durkee b: June 04, 1789 in Stockbridge, Windsor County, Vermont d: March 18, 1879 in Binghamton, Broome, New York
. 2 [4] Almira Morgan b: Abt. 1804 in Rhode Island d: April 1888 in Sandy Creek, Oswego, NY
..... +[5] HIRAM Robinson b: August 12, 1799 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: Bef. July 20, 1860 in Died at Sea/Sandy Creek, Oswego, NY Occupation: 1850 Millwright
*2nd Wife of [1] Justin Morgan, Sr.:
.. +Martha Day b: April 24, 1753 in Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts d: March 20, 1791 in Randolph, Orange, Vermont
. 2 [2] Justin Morgan, Jr. b: March 15, 1786 in West Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts d: May 04, 1853 in Stockbridge, Windsor County, Vermont Occupation: 1820 Two in commerce
..... +[3] Sarah "Sally" Durkee b: June 04, 1789 in Stockbridge, Windsor County, Vermont d: March 18, 1879 in Binghamton, Broome, New York
. 2 [4] Almira Morgan b: Abt. 1804 in Rhode Island d: April 1888 in Sandy Creek, Oswego, NY
..... +[5] HIRAM Robinson b: August 12, 1799 in Royalton, Windsor, Vermont d: Bef. July 20, 1860 in Died at Sea/Sandy Creek, Oswego, NY Occupation: 1850 Millwright
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Update; 11/8/2018: In searching a 3rd cousin match of Teres Fair, we both share "Babcock" winding up in Vermont, .Babcock leads to another Robinson family...
Descendants of George Robinson, one of my original Robinsons that I first thought was our Robinson line.
1 George Robinson b: 1626 in Glasgow, Scotland d: November 09, 1699 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts, Attleboro, MA Occupation: carpenter
.. +Joanna Ingraham b: Bet. 1629 - 1633 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts d: July 26, 1699 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts
. 2 Mary Robinson b: May 30, 1652 in Rehoboth, Massachusetts d: 1694
. 2 Samuel George Robinson b: October 03, 1654 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts d: September 17, 1724 in Rehoboth/ Attleboro, Bristol, Massachusetts
..... +Mehitable Read b: August 1660 in Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts d: 1719 in Attleboro, Massachusetts
. 2 George Robinson, Jr. b: 1670 in Rehoboth, Attleboro, Bristol, Massachusetts d: September 30, 1724 in Attleboro,Bristol, Massachusetts
..... +Elizabeth Guild b: January 18, 1659/60 in Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts d: October 21, 1740 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts
. 2 Elizabeth Robinson b: April 03, 1658 d: 1718
..... +William Carpenter b: 1659 in Rehoboth, Massachusetts d: 1718 in Attleboro, Massachusetts
. 2 William Robinson b: March 29, 1663 in Rehoboth, Massachusetts d: May 20, 1690 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts
..... +Carpenter
. 2 Benjamin Robinson b: January 08, 1664/65 in Rehoboth, Massachusetts d: April 07, 1724 in Attleboro, Massachusetts
..... +Rebecca Ingraham b: 1665 in Rehoboth, Massachusetts d: 1724
. 2 John Robinson b: November 29, 1668 in Rehoboth, Massachusetts d: November 07, 1751 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts
..... +Judith Cooper b: 1673 in Rehoboth, Massachusetts d: 1750
. 2 Nathaniel Robinson b: November 01, 1673 in Rehoboth, Massachusetts d: 1673 in Rehoboth, Massachusetts
Babcock also led to Tuller:
Descendants of Betsy Babcock
1 Betsy Babcock b: 1769 in Georgia, Franklin, Vermont d: November 16, 1864 in Georgia, Franklin County, Vermont
.. +Martin Merritt b: July 25, 1765 in Killingworth, Middlesex, Connecticut d: February 22, 1850 in Georgia, Franklin County, Vermont
. 2 [1] Phineas Babcock Merritt b: Abt. 1793 in Georgia, Franklin County, Vermont d: in St. Albans, Vermont
..... +Eliza Tullar b: February 11, 1809 in Vermont d: October 15, 1887 in St. Albans, Vermont
. *2nd Wife of [1] Phineas Babcock Merritt:
..... +Eliza Tullar b: February 11, 1809 in Vermont
Babcock also led to a Robinson:
Descendants of Irene Babcock
1 Irene Babcock b: 1748 in Mansfield, Tolland, Connecticut d: May 21, 1830 in Sharon, Windsor, Vermont
.. +Ashbel Ladd b: February 15, 1759 in Coventry, Tolland, Connecticut d: October 11, 1840 in Sharon, Windsor,Vermont
. 2 Ralph Ladd b: March 21, 1790 in Sharon, Windsor, Vermont d: September 03, 1877 in Sharon, Windsor, Vermont Occupation: Bet. 1850 - 1860 Farmer
..... +Persis Percy Robinson b: July 16, 1793 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont d: April 19, 1883 in Sharon, Windsor, Vermont
..... 3 Chester B. Ladd b: 1820 in Sharon, Windsor, Vermont d: 1901
..... 3 Semantha L. Ladd b: 1825 in Vermont d: 1896
..... 3 Charlotte A. Ladd b: 1824 in Vermont
......... +Sydney L. Judd b: 1827
..... 3 Mary A.L. Ladd b: 1845 in Sharon, Windsor,, Vermont
..... 3 Martha J. Ladd b: 1848 in Sharon, Windsor,, Vermont
This also led to Descendants of George Robinson
1 George Robinson b: 1626 in Glasgow, Scotland d: November 09, 1699 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts, Attleboro, MA Occupation: carpenter
.. +Joanna Ingraham b: Bet. 1629 - 1633 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts d: July 26, 1699 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts
Philip John McCullem b: July 10, 1889 in Omaha, Nebraska d: march 20, 1939 in Port Townsend, Wd 3, Jefferson, Washington Occupation: Truck farm, own his own home. is the start of the Robinson line of interest for Teres . Her clue was Port Townsend, Washington.
May 2019
I keep coming back to this Rockingham, New Hampshire leading group. Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont is just loaded with Robinsons.
Alma Robinson is a daughter of James Robinson way above and Alma's husband is a Noyes. Descendants of Alma Robinson. Descendants of JAMES ROBINSON
1 JAMES ROBINSON b: Bet. June 16, 1800 - 1801 in Strafford, Orange, Vermont d: October 29, 1878 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
.. +Mary "May" Bicknell b: December 06, 1802 in Chelsea, Orange, Vermont d: October 09, 1867 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
1 Alma Robinson b: November 04, 1833 in Vermont d: April 06, 1902 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
.. +Seth A. Noyes b: 1822 in prob Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont d: 1899 in prob. Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
. 2 Elizabeth "Lizzie" Noyes b: 1860 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
It's interesting that his ancestor Noyes lived in Rockingham, NH.
Descendants of Nathan Noyes
1 Nathan Noyes b: February 24, 1761 in Pembroke, Merrimack, New Hampshire d: September 15, 1825 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
.. +Sarah Thompson b: June 14, 1760 in Kingston, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: November 07, 1832 in Tunbridge, Orange, Vermont
Resource: http://wwwrobinsongenealogy.blogspot.com/2011/01/comments-on-hiram-robinson-and-almira.html
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