Monday, October 17, 2016
No Robinsons on the Mayflower, but Reverend John Robinson Sent Many Pilgrims
One thing I have found is that my Robinson family had married into THE ROBINSON FAMILY OF JOHN ROBINSON, OF HOLLAND WHO SENT THE PILGRIMS ONTO THE MAYFLOWER. So we are indirectly connected.
Birth: Isaac Robinson was born about 1610 in Leiden. Death: He died in Barnstable in 1704. Ship: Unknown, 1631. The ship that came in 1621 was the Fortune and there were no Robinsons listed. Isaac came over to Plymouth between 22 May 1627 to 27 March 1634. The date was thought to be 1631 and married Margaret Hanford.
The ships that came over in 1631 were: It was said to be the Lyon.
|Lyon 1||Pierce||1631||Bristol, England|
|Plough of Woolwich||Graves||1631||London, England||Massachusetts|
|White Angel||1631||Bristol, England||Saco, Maine|
|Robert Bonadventure||May 1631||London, England||St Christophers|
|De Eendracht||July 7 1631||Texel, Holland||New Amster. (NYC)|
|Lyon 2||Pierce||Nov 1631||London, England||Nantasket, MA|
Life in Holland: Isaac Robinson, one of nine children, was born in Leiden to Reverend John and Bridget (White) Robinson. His father was the pastor of the English reformed church there. The family lived in Groenepoort near the St. Peter’s Church. Rev. Robinson died in 1625, but his widow and children remained in Leiden. Isaac was the only one to emigrate to New England.
Another source said he came in the Winthrop fleet, that I believe came 10 years later. "Issac, Plymouth 1630, son of blessed John, the apostle of Leyden, come probably with his mother in the fleet with Winthrop.
Descendants of JOHN (Rev.) Robinson
1 JOHN (Rev.) Robinson b: Bet. 1575 - 1576 in Sturton Nottinghamshire, or Lincolnshire, England
.. +Bridget White b: 1579 in Sturton Nottinghamshire, England
. 2 John Robinson b: Bet. 1606 - 1609 in Norwich, Norfolk, England
. 2 Bridget Robinson b: 1608 in Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands
. 2  Isaac Robinson b: Bet. 1610 - 1620 in Reusel-de Mierden, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands, Leiden, Holland
..... +Margaret Hanford b: 1619 in Fremington, Devon, England
. *2nd Wife of  Isaac Robinson:
..... +Mary Faunce b: July 25, 1628 in Plymouth, Massachusetts
. 2 Jacob Robinson b: February 07, 1620/21 in Greasley, Nottingham, England
. 2 Mercy Robinson b: Abt. 1614 in Leyden, Holland
. 2  Fear Robinson b: 1614 in Leyden, Holland
..... +Samuel Baker b: Abt. 1614
. *2nd Husband of  Fear Robinson:
..... +John Jennings
Here's where DNA comes in. Our Robinson line's Y haplogroup is R1b1a2a1a1b4, which is now called as an R-L21. The DYS #393 is 12 instead of 13. This denotes more matches with the Irish than English people. Our oral history was that his line came from Wales. He may have been very confused as he had run away from home as a teenager and had never returned over an argument with his father, Abiather over his horse that was gored by a bull in the field. Abiathar wouldn't let him move it out as it was the Sabbath.
I have not found that this group has had many dna tests, but the few that have not carried the very same haplotype, though they also are R1. It's the allele of 393 that differs, theirs being a 13 and ours a 12. We've tested with Family Tree DNA and also have the results with GedMatch.com. I haven't come across but one match which has also had the 67 allele test that is a haplotype match, but not a personal match.
Now I find that a DNA match of my Robinson cousin also has a tree, and his tree shows a John Robinson born in 1580 in Meppershall, England who was married to Katherine Eaden. They had a son, John Robinson, born on February 9, 1611 in Meppershall who married Elizabeth Trickely in Haverhill, Massachusetts. They had a son, John Robinson born in 1640 in Haverhill, Massachusetts. He married Dorothy Perkins. They were different. Their son was named Jacob Robinson.
Isaac Robinson: from genie.com.
|Birth:||circa 1610 |
Leiden, Leiden, South Holland, The Netherlands
|Death:||circa 1704 (86-102)|
Barnstable, Barnstable County, Province of Massachusetts, (Present USA)
|Sparrow||1622||Massachusetts Bay||Mr. Rogers|
|Katherine||1623||London (prob)||Weymouth||Joseph Stratton|
|Little James||1623||London||Plymouth||John Bridges|
|Prophet Daniel||1623||Mr. Poole|
|Yorke Bonaventure||1623||London (prob)||Casco Bay, Maine||Christopher Levitt|
|Zouch Phenix||1624||Weymouth (prob)||Cape Anne|
|White Angel||1628||Barnstaple||Plymouth||Christopher Burkett|
|Four Sisters||1629||Gravesend||Roger Harman|
|George Bonaventure||1629||Gravesend||Salem||Thomas Cox|
|Lyon's Whelp||1629||Gravesend||Salem||John Gibbs|
|Six ships sailed||1629||Gravesend||Salem,Boston|
|1629||Isle of Wight||Salem||Thomas Beecher|
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