Sunday, April 16, 2017


Robinson: Scotch Irish Family

Nadene Goldfoot                                              
Being my mother's father's line of Robinson is R=L21, I find that they are of Scotch-Irish descent.  In fact, their dna matches many more Irish than English.  Grandpa Frank Hugh Robinson told us his people were from Wales.  He was off pretty much unless they were Irish or Scotch before moving to Wales. His oral history was that they didn't come on the Mayflower but the ship after that.  That would have been 1630.  Grampa never stressed the Scotch-Irish part of his family.  He just said he was a "blue-bellied Yank!"


Scottish, Scotch-Irish, and English Immigration, 1715-1775

People from the north of England, Scotland, and northern Ireland made up much of the migration to the western frontier regions of the early American colonies, especially to the rugged mountainous areas. The northern Irish migrants were mainly Scotch-Irish, descendants of people from Scotland who had moved to Ireland in earlier centuries. Most of the Irish in America before the nineteenth century were actually Scotch-Irish.
Scots-Irish of Northern Ireland
From 1606 to the end of the seventeenth century, a large number of migrants, mostly from the lowlands of Scotland, settled in the province of Ulster, northern Ireland, where many of them became tenant farmers. Though the lands originated as a private venture for Scottish investors, James I placed them under royal authority, claiming the lands of the defeated Irish rebels for the crown in 1607 and backing the colonial scheme in a royal missive to the Scottish Privy Council in 1609. His aim was to pacify the Scottish borders, relieving the kingdom of "reivers" ("rustlers") and the dispossessed of the borderlands. What is more, he anticipated that the largely Presbyterian emigrants would provide a buffer zone against the Irish Catholics, to be God's bulldogs, as it were. His plan worked and the plantation flourished for much of the century. By 1620, as many as 50,000 lowland Scots had settled in the Ulster province, followed by another 50,000 by the beginning of the English civil wars (1640). Economic, religious, and political conditions in northern Ireland by the end of the century, however, brought the enterprise to a standstill, instigating yet another migration—this time to the New World.

Northern Irish migration peaked between the 1750’s and the early 1770’s, with an estimated 14,200 people from northern Ireland reaching America from 1750 to 1759, 21,200 from 1760 to 1769, and 13,200 in the half-decade leading up to the American Revolution. Most of the Scots migration took place from 1760 to 1775, when about 25,000 new arrivals came to the colonies. The counties of North England, bordering Scotland, experienced a series of crop failures that were especially severe in 1727, 1740, and 1770. Each of these crop failures resulted in famine that sent successive waves of immigrants to America. Together, the Scottish, Scotch-Irish, and North English immigrants probably made up 90 percent of the settlers in the back country of America. Arriving after the lands along the eastern coast had been taken, these hardy individuals made up the original American frontier folk."
Mildred Goldfoot nee Robinson, half Swedish from her immigrant mother and
half "blue-blooded Yankee" -evidently made up of Scotch-Irish.  She would put Martha Stewart to shame.  Cooking-a talent from her mother, painting, wallpapering, gardening, sewing tailoring, house cleaning, laundering, you name it.  She did it.She even danced the can-can in the PTA program.    
Jimmy Stewart left bottom, above is Myrna Loy; 

I have always thought that our first DYS listed, the 393, being a 12, was an impediment to being a Robinson, being so many started with 13.  I see from the FTDNA Robinson study listed below that there were 17 that started with 12, and many more, of course, that started with 13 in our R1b group.

Update: 4/17/17 9:00am
Here's information from the Bennett name study and their DYS393=12.
When viewing the chart, note that DYS numbers in red are the faster mutating markers. Mutations (from the modal) are highlighted with a blue background. SNP testing has confirmed our Haplogroup to be R1b1a2a. Note also that each person in our group has an allele of 12 at DYS#393, an unusual occurrence, happening only about 2% of the time. We are participating in The Border Reivers “DYS393=12” Y-DNA Study to learn more about the possible deep ancestry ramifications of this splinter group. This haplotype, called ht-35, may have originated from individuals who took refuge from the last ice age (about 10,000 years ago) in Anatolia. To view all the Bennett Group results, visit the Bennett Group chart at (See link in sidebar). Our Ipswich Bennetts are listed as Sub-group 8a in the FTDNA chart, and are easily recognized by DYS#393=12.
Update: 4/17/17 8:30am
To come out Scotch-Irish, I've changed our genealogy fathers again.
1. Abiathar Smith Robinson b: 1829 in New York or Vermont
    m: Julia Ann Tuller b: 1834 Royalton, Vermont
2.  Hiram Robinson b: 1806 Strafford, Orange, Vermont.
     m: Zeruiah Tyler, Strafford, Orange, Vermont
3.   Daniel Robinson Jr. b: 1769 Rushville, Yates, NY, d: Strafford, VT.
     m: Betsy Buell b: 1775, CT, d: Straffortd, VT
4. Daniel Robinson, b: 1734, Falmouth, Mass.
    m: Lucretia Pierce b: 1735 Mass.
5. Ebenezer Robinson b: 1697 Mass.
    m: Elizabeth Reed b: 1699 Mass
6. Samuel Robinson b: 1654 Mass
    m: Mehitable Reed b: 1660 Mass
7. George Robinson b: 1626 Glasgow, Scotland or England
   m: Joanna Ingraham b: c1629


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Hi Nadine!
I came across your blog while researching my family and I do believe we may be distant relatives! My mother was a Robinson from Decatur IL the 1855 Amos Robinson is my 3x grandfather decending to Percy Issac and Harry W Robinson. Oddly enough I live just south of your Hillsboro Oregon relatives! I would love to find out if I am correct! Also I just got my DNA results from AncestryDNA and I am 59% Irish, as my father side is also from Wales. Now I know it's from my mothers side too!
Most interesting Nadine! My Robinsons were Scots-Irish (or Ulster Scots if you prefer). They came to Kentucky arounf 1770, having come through Virginia and the Cumberland Gap. The story goes that they were lowland Scots of some reknown. They repeatedly fought the English at every opportunity. Finally, following the Battle of Colloughton, they were stripped of their lands and title and shipped off to Ulster Ireland where they remainded for about one generation. As soon as they learned that Kentucky had opened up, they left and made a beeline for middle Kentucky where the majority still live today. My 2x great grandfather, William Robinson, was the oldest man in America at the time of his death in 1939 and the last Civil War veteran on either side from Kentucky (his son would be the oldest person in the state at the time of his death). They were known for their wicked sense of humor, hard workers, stubborn, short temper, and being very good with a knife. Paul Hosse'
Katrina Sakon,
How interesting. If you tested with ancestry, now transfer your results to It's a free site and has other tools to use for comparisons, triangulations, etc. most interesting. All my relatives' results are there and mine, of course. We could compare and see if we share some DNA.

Another opinion; Shipped off to Ireland from Kentucky! How awful! That says a lot for your male line in that your William was the oldest man in America in 1939. Maybe all that hard work was the secret to longevity, and that sense of humor.

Gosh, when working on my XP, I could answer each person individually and was notified through email when someone wrote a comment. Now on this 10, nothing like that is happening. That's why I'm answering 3 months late.

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