Sunday, October 05, 2025

 

2025 New Abiathar Smith Robinson Tree Leads to Rev John Robinsn of Holland and the Mayflower

 Nadene Goldfoot, daughter of Mildred Elizabeth Robinson

A revelation in the direction our 2nd Great Grandfather, Abiathat Smith Robinson has taken place.  Here is our tree and how I get to the famous John Robinson in Holland and his son Isaac Robinson who did take the Mayflower or at least came to America.  John stayed in Holland.  

Our Robinson line goes back to Ireland of the Fitzpatrick line. 

 dna is R-L21 or R1b1a2a1a1b4 or  R-FT111213  as it was the BIG Y test, upgraded

Descendants of JOHN (Rev.) Robinson, Jr., Pastor

8th:  John Robinson, Reverend,  Mayflower

7th Isaac Robinson, son

6. Peter Robinson

5. Benjamin Robinson and Jerusha Bingham

4. Elijah Robinson

3. Jasper Robinson

2. John Milton Robinson

1. Abiathar Smith Robinson

1   JOHN (Rev.) Robinson, Jr., Pastor b: Bet. 1575 - 1576 in Sturton Nottinghamshire, or Lincolnshire, England d: February 19, 1624/25 in Leyden, Holland Immigration: Leyden, Holland Age at death: 50 est. Age at death: 50 est. Cause of death: plague at Leyden, Holland Age at first Marriage: 28 est. Cause of death: plague at Leyden, Holland

. +Bridget White b: 1579 in Sturton Nottinghamshire, England d: 1643 in Leyden, South Holland, Netherlands m: February 15, 1602/03 in Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Age at death: 64 est. m: February 15, 1602/03 in Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Age at death: 64 est. Age at first Marriage: 24 est.

.. 2   Abraham Robinson b: 1603 d: 1645 Age at death: 42 est. Age at death: 42 est.

.. 2   Ann Robinson b: 1604 d: 1643 Age at death: 39 est. Age at death: 39 est.

.. 2   Favor Robinson b: 1604 d: 1654 Age at death: 50 est. Age at death: 50 est.

.. 2   Mary Robinson b: 1604

.. 2   William Robinson b: 1605 d: 1622 Age at death: 17 est. Age at death: 17 est.

.. 2   John Robinson, Jr.Dr. b: March 24, 1605/06 in Norwich, Norfolk, England d: Aft. 1643 in Massachusetts Age at death: 37 est. Age at death: 37 est.

...... +Ruth Lane

.. 2   Bridget Lee Robinson b: January 25, 1606/07 in Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands d: 1670 in Leyden, Holland Age at death: 63 est. Age at death: 63 est.

.. 2   [3] Isaac Robinson b: February 1609/10 in Reusel-de Mierden, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands, Leiden, Holland d: 1704 in Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts Immigration: 1631 Plymouth, Massachusetts Age at death: 94 est. Age at death: 94 est. Burial: 1704 Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts

...... +Margaret Hanford b: 1619 in Fremington, Devon, England d: Bef. June 13, 1649 in Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts m: June 27, 1636 in Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts Age at death: 30 est. m: June 27, 1636 in Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts Age at death: 30 est. Age at first Marriage: 17 est. Burial: June 13, 1649

....... 3   Thomas Robinson b: Abt. 1635

....... 3   Mary Mercy Robinson b: Abt. 1636 Age at first Marriage: 33 est.

........... +William Weeks b: 1636 d: February 28, 1714/15 m: March 16, 1668/69 Age at death: 79 est. m: March 16, 1668/69 Age at death: 79 est. Age at first Marriage: 33 est.

....... 3   Susannah Robinson b: January 21, 1636/37 d: Bef. 1736 Age at death: 99 est. Age at death: 99 est.

....... 3   Israel Robinson b: Abt. 1638

....... 3   Jacob Robinson b: Abt. 1639

........... +Sarah Hitchcock b: 1669 d: 1747 Age at death: 78 est. Age at death: 78 est.

....... 3   JOHN ROBINSON, Pastor b: April 05, 1640 in Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts d: 1714 in Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts Age at death: 74 est. Age at death: 74 est. Age at first Marriage: 27

........... +Elizabeth Weeks b: 1648 in England/ Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts d: 1714 in Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts/CT m: May 01, 1667 in Barnstable County, Falmouth, Massachusetts Age at death: 66 est. m: May 01, 1667 in Barnstable County, Falmouth, Massachusetts Age at death: 66 est. Age at first Marriage: 19 est.

....... 3   William Robinson b: Abt. 1641

....... 3   Isaac Robinson, Jr. b: August 07, 1642 in Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts d: October 06, 1668 in Falmouth, Barnstable Co, Massachusetts Age at death: 26 Age at death: 26 Age at first Marriage: 24 est.

........... +Ann b: Abt. 1640 in Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts m: 1666 m: 1666 Age at first Marriage: 26 est.

....... 3   [1] Fear Robinson b: January 26, 1644/45

........... +Unknown Baker

....... *2nd Husband of [1] Fear Robinson:

........... +Samuel Baker b: October 02, 1638 in Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts d: 1714 in Windsor, Hartford, Connecticut m: September 30, 1664 in Dukes County, Massachusetts Age at death: 76 est. m: September 30, 1664 in Dukes County, Massachusetts Age at death: 76 est. Age at first Marriage: 25

....... 3   [2] Mercy Robinson b: July 04, 1647 in Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts d: 1740 Age at death: 93 est. Age at death: 93 est.

........... +Unnamed b: Abt. 1646

....... *2nd Husband of [2] Mercy Robinson:

........... +Unknown Weeks

....... *3rd Husband of [2] Mercy Robinson:

........... +William Weeks b: 1647 in Devonshire, England d: February 16, 1715/16 in Falmouth, Barnstable Co, Massachusetts m: March 16, 1668/69 in Falmouth, Barnstable County, Massachusetts Age at death: 69 est. m: March 16, 1668/69 in Falmouth, Barnstable County, Massachusetts Age at death: 69 est. Age at first Marriage: 22 est.

....... 3   Margaret Robinson b: June 06, 1649 in Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts d: June 06, 1649 in Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts Age at death: 0 Age at death: 0

.. *2nd Wife of [3] Isaac Robinson:

...... +Mary Isledon d: Aft. November 08, 1669 m: Aft. 1649 Age at death: ? m: Aft. 1649 Age at death: ? Age at first Marriage: ?

....... 3   Peter Robinson b: 1655 d: 1740 Age at death: 85 est. Age at death: 85 est.

........... +Experience Lumbert b: 1675 d: 1727 Age at death: 52 est. Age at death: 52 est.

....... 3   John Robinson, Reverend

....... 3   Isaac Robinson

.. *3rd Wife of [3] Isaac Robinson:

...... +Mary Faunce b: July 25, 1628 in Plymouth, Massachusetts d: Aft. November 08, 1699 in Plymouth, Massachusetts m: 1650 in Plymouth, Massachusetts Age at death: 71 est. m: 1650 in Plymouth, Massachusetts Age at death: 71 est. Age at first Marriage: 22 est.

....... 3   Israel Isaac Robinson b: October 05, 1651 in Barnstable, Massachusetts d: 1728 Age at death: 77 est. Age at death: 77 est.

........... +Anne Cottle

....... 3   [4] Jacob Robinson b: May 15, 1653 in Barnstable, Massachusetts d: May 13, 1728 in Tisbury, Dukes, Massachusetts Age at death: 74 Age at death: 74

........... +Mary b: Abt. 1674 d: Abt. 1774 Age at death: 100 est. Age at death: 100 est.

....... *2nd Wife of [4] Jacob Robinson:

........... +Experience Rogers b: June 22, 1673 in Nantucket, Massachusetts d: May 11, 1763 in Tisbury, Dukes, Massachusetts Age at death: 89 Age at death: 89

....... 3   [5] Peter Robinson, Sr. b: June 1655 in Barnstable, Massachusetts d: Abt. February 1739/40 in Scotland, or Preston, Windham, Connecticut Age at death: 84 est. Age at death: 84 est. Age at first Marriage: 29 est. Burial: Old Scotland Cemetery, North, Scotland, Connecticut

........... +Mary Mantor b: 1668 in Eastham, Barnstable, Massachusetts d: Abt. 1702 in Barnstable,/Tisbury Massachusetts m: 1684 in Tisbury, Massachusetts Age at death: 34 est. m: 1684 in Tisbury, Massachusetts Age at death: 34 est. Age at first Marriage: 16 est.

....... *2nd Wife of [5] Peter Robinson, Sr.:

........... +Experience Manter Lumbert b: 1673 in Tisbury, Dukes, Massachusetts d: April 30, 1725 in Palmertown, Connecticut m: 1699 in Scotland, Connecticut Age at death: 52 est. m: 1699 in Scotland, Connecticut Age at death: 52 est. Age at first Marriage: 26 est. Burial: Palmertown Cemetery, Palmertown, Scotland,CT with infant grandson

....... 3   Thomas Robinson b: March 06, 1655/56 in Barnstable, Massachusetts

....... 3   Martha Robinson b: Abt. 1657

....... 3   Israel Robinson b: Abt. 1659

....... 3   Simeon Robinson b: Abt. 1661

....... 3   Joseph Robinson b: Abt. 1663

....... 3   Benjamin Robinson b: Abt. 1665

....... 3   Abigail Robinson b: August 05, 1701 in Tisbury, Dukes, Massachusetts d: December 09, 1765 Age at death: 64 Age at death: 64

........... +Elihu Palmer b: January 19, 1699/00 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts d: July 22, 1764 in Windham, Connecticut Age at death: 64 Age at death: 64

.. *4th Wife of [3] Isaac Robinson:

...... +Mary Duxbury

.. 2   Mercy Robinson b: Abt. 1612 in Leyden, Holland d: March 27, 1623 in Leyden, Holland Age at death: 11 est. Age at death: 11 est.

.. 2   Jacob Robinson b: 1614 in Leyden, South Holland, Netherlands d: May 26, 1638 in Leyden, Holland Age at death: 24 est. Age at death: 24 est.

.. 2   [6] Fear Robinson b: Bet. 1614 - 1616 in Leyden, Holland d: May 31, 1670 in Leyden, South Holland, Netherlands Age at death: 56 est. Age at death: 56 est.

...... +Samuel Baker b: Abt. 1614

.. *2nd Husband of [6] Fear Robinson:

...... +John Jennings m: September 08, 1648 m: September 08, 1648 Age at first Marriage: ?

.. 2   James Robinson b: 1621 d: 1638 Age at death: 17 est. Age at death: 17 est.


Abiathar Simith Robinson, 2nd- ggrandfather

Descendants of FRANK Hugh Robinson
1   [1] FRANK Hugh Robinson, grandfather  b: June 21, 1870 in Wenona,Marshall County, Illinois d: May 27, 1952 in Hillsboro,Washington County,  Oregon, age 81 Age at death: 81 Age at death: 81 Cause of death: old age, in hospital, heart Bronchial pneumonia Age at first Marriage: 22 Burial: June 02, 1952 Young's funeral Home, Hillsboro, Oregon Cause of death: old age, in hospital, heart Bronchial pneumonia
. +Alice Ira Mitchell b: January 1877 in South Dakota d: 1902 in Iowa/Nebraska m: December 02, 1892 in Omaha,  Douglas County, Nebraska Age at death: 25 est. m: December 02, 1892 in Omaha,  Douglas County, Nebraska Age at death: 25 est. Cause of death: Died  when tooth was pulled, and she bled to death. Age at first Marriage: 15 est. Cause of death: Died  when tooth was pulled, and she bled to death.
.. 2   Ruth Evelyn Robinson b: February 13, 1895 in Omaha City, Douglas County,  Nebraska d: February 04, 1984 in Clackamas County, Oregon/Portland, OR 97225 Age at death: 88 Age at death: 88 Cause of death: Cancerof breast, Hospital in Portland, Oregon Age at first Marriage: 16 est. Cause of death: Cancerof breast, Hospital in Portland, Oregon
...... +Phillip B. Edwards b: September 1890 in Jackson, Alliance, Nebraska possibly , brother born there d: January 23, 1953 in Portland, Multnomah County,  Oregon,  97225 m: Abt. 1911 in prob Portland, Oregon, Phillip was 21 and Ruth was 16. Age at death: 62 est. m: Abt. 1911 in prob Portland, Oregon, Phillip was 21 and Ruth was 16. Age at death: 62 est. Age at first Marriage: 21 est.
....... 3   Melvin B. Edwards b: January 17, 1914 in prob. Portland, Multnomah, Oregon d: July 19, 1968 in Sacramento, California age 53 Age at death: 54 Age at death: 54 Age at first Marriage: 21 est.
........... +Jean b: Abt. 1915 m: Abt. 1935 m: Abt. 1935 Age at first Marriage: 20 est.
........... 4   Phillip Edwards b: Abt. 1936 d: Abt. 1950 Age at death: 14 est. Age at death: 14 est.
........... 4   Melva Jean Edwards b: Abt. 1937
....... 3   Ruth "Sis" Edwards b: Abt. 1917 in pro. Portland, Oregon Age at first Marriage: 20 est.
........... +Car Salesman b: Abt. 1917 m: Abt. 1937 m: Abt. 1937 Age at first Marriage: 20 est.
........... 4   Candy Salesman b: Abt. 1938
....... 3   Margaret Elizabeth "Dolly" Edwards b: April 21, 1919 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon d: November 16, 1989 in Portland, Multnomah County, Oregon Age at death: 70 Age at death: 70 Age at first Marriage: 22 est. Burial: November 20, 1989 Willamette National Cemetery, Portland, Oregon Sect 0 Site 3043
........... +James Howard Lt. Col. Adamsen b: March 25, 1920 in Portland, Multnomah County, Oregon d: February 01, 1979 in Vancouver, Clark County, Washington m: 1941 in Portland, Oregon Age at death: 58 m: 1941 in Portland, Oregon Age at death: 58 Age at first Marriage: 21 est. Burial: February 05, 1979 Willamette National Cemetery, Portland, Oregon Sect 0 Site 3043
.. 2   Babe Robinson b: Bef. June 1900 d: Bef. June 01, 1900 Age at death: 0 est. Age at death: 0 est.
.. 2   Baby Robinson b: Bef. June 1900 d: Bef. June 01, 1900 Age at death: 0 est. Age at death: 0 est.
.. 2   Little Robinson b: Bef. June 1900 d: Bef. June 01, 1900 Age at death: 0 est. Age at death: 0 est.
.. 2   Lillian "Lily" Fern Robinson b: January 17, 1901 in Wenona, Illinois d: January 03, 1980 in Fair Oaks, Carmichael, Sacramento, California, 95628 Age at death: 78 Age at death: 78 Age at first Marriage: 18 est. Burial: January 05, 1980 Seventh Day Adventist Church, Meadow Vista, California
...... +John Millard "Jack" Monroe b: August 02, 1893 in Washington, D.C. d: 1991 in California m: Abt. 1919 Age at death: 98 est. m: Abt. 1919 Age at death: 98 est. Age at first Marriage: 26 est.
....... 3   Jean A. Monroe b: Abt. 1921 in Oregon d: in California
........... 4   Boy Monroe b: Abt. 1940 d: in 10 yrs old shot in the head at a rifle range.
....... 3   Donald Thomas Monroe, Sr. b: October 10, 1922 in Oregon d: April 10, 1991 in Garden Valley, El Dorado, California Age at death: 68 Age at death: 68
........... +Betty M. Smith b: May 1923
........... 4   Donald Thomas Monroe, Jr. b: March 03, 1941 in Sacramento, Calfornia Age at first Marriage: 24
............... +Carol A. Johnson b: 1945 m: August 28, 1965 in Sacramento, California m: August 28, 1965 in Sacramento, California
................ 5   Donald Thomas Monroe III b: July 20, 1966 in Sacramento, California
................ 5   Thomas Neal Monroe b: September 25, 1967 in Sacramento, Calfornia Age at first Marriage: 34
.................... +Janet Smith b: Abt. 1967 m: February 16, 2002 in Reno, Washoe, Nevada m: February 16, 2002 in Reno, Washoe, Nevada Age at first Marriage: 35 est.
........... 4   Martha "Marty" M. Monroe b: May 1945 in Sacramento, Calfornia
............... +Unknown Owens b: Abt. 1944
........... 4   Michael "Mike" Thomas Monroe b: October 28, 1946 in Sacramento, Calfornia
....... 3   John "Jack" M. Monroe, Jr. b: 1923 in California
 Robinson:*2nd Wife of [1] FRANK Hugh
. +Gustafva"Augusta" Johansson Olson Gustafson b: January 31, 1870 in Dalarna, Sverige; Lumsheden, Svardsjo parish, Sweden d: April 19, 1955 in Hillsboro, Washington County, Oregon, age 85 m: 1910 in Sioux City, Iowa Immigration: 1888 Through Canada on the East Coast ? with sister & nephew Age at death: 85 m: 1910 in Sioux City, Iowa Age at death: 85 Age at first Marriage: 27 Burial: April 23, 1955 Fir Lawn Cemetery, Hillsboro, Oregon
.. 2   [2] Mildred Elizabeth Robinson b: June 29, 1913 in Tigard/ Portland, Oregon d: October 05, 2005 in Ontario, Malheur County, Oregon 97914 Age at death: 92 Age at death: 92 Cause of death: Septic Shock from urinary track infection/heart attack. Burial: October 07, 2005 Shaarie Torah Cemetery, Portland, Oregon, East Section, Row A , Plot 21 Cause of death: Septic Shock from urinary track infection/heart attack.
......
.. *1st Husband of [2] Mildred Elizabeth Robinson:
...... +Maurice Morris Moses Goldfoot b: July 01, 1908 in Portland, Oregon, at home at 277  Baker Street d: July 23, 1967 in Portland, Oregon, Multnomah County, age 59 yrs 22 days. m: April 29, 1932 in Cowlitz County, Kelso,  Washington Age at death: 59 m: April 29, 1932 in Cowlitz County, Kelso,  Washington Age at death: 59 Cause of death: Hepatitis (hepatic failure due to shock cloct eular necrosis Age at first Marriage: 19 Burial: July 26, 1967 Shaarie Torah Cemetery, Portland, OR, East Section,  Block E Section A Plot 22 Cause of death: Hepatitis (hepatic failure due to shock cloct eular necrosis
....... 3   [3] Nadene Fern Goldfoot b: September 

WELL, I found out that there is  too much for my program to print out
for me, so  this will have to suffice.  I knew that there was a John Robinson on our 1850 census living with the Tullers, wife of Abiathar Smith was Julia Ann Tuller and it was her parents. John Milton Robinson fit the bill as this led to a friend of mine Merry Ann Marsh, married to a Roy Bingham, of the Navy, deceased but served in Korea.  I have plenty of Marsh and Bingham people all from New England, so I figure she's now connected to me through John Milton Robinson of Maine, (matched with Maine Robinsons,  and Jerusha Bingham.  



 

Tree Leading to Meppershall, Bedfordshire, England by Accident

 Nadene Goldfoot                       

                New Hampshire

I ran across Daniel Coleman as one of my DNA matches  of a 3rd to 5th cousin, and that's a story in itself.  In Daniel's list of surnames on his tree with FTDNA, there was a Landsburg that attracted my eye because I was just finishing reading a book by Alan Landsburg, and thought maybe I could be related to him.  It was just a wild hunch.  


This led me to William H. Robinson on my tree.  This Robinson led me to Paschal Robinson, corporal in the Civil War era who wound up in Portland, Cumberland, Maine. He was from the line of Benjamin Franklin Robinson b: 1822 in Brentwood, Rockingham, New Hampshire, where I had found a lot of possible Robinsons.  Paschal didn't marry or leave descendants, which would make my search easier, but his relatives did.  This line leads back to John W. Robinson born in 1580 in Meppershall, Bedfordshire, England.  

This gives me quite a jolt as my ggrandfather was established in Vermont.  It's also full of Robinsons that are possible relatives.  In fact, I'm beginning to think that we're sharing DNA with every Robinson in New England.  

My brother's Y haplogroup connects with another Robinson totally in Maine, while mine have been in NH, Vermont and other sites in New England.  He is James Alton Robinson and his line is from Maine, but originally,  England. His tree leads to Meppershall, Bedfordshire, England and it helped me.  

 I've just recently received word that we are connected to the Fitzpatrick line in Ireland. Our grandfather, who had left home at 16, I think, thought his family was from Wales.  James and my cousin have a distance of 5, not sharing exactly the same Y haplogroup but it is another R.... James also had a large number of ancestors in Rockingham, New Hampshire.  This connection comes from the test of the Y haplogroup (male line).  


I already found Descendants of Joseph Sanborn Robinson


1   [1] Joseph Sanborn Robinson b: May 28, 1812 in Brentwood, Rockingham, New Hampshire d: August 29, 1887 in Brentwood, Rockingham, New Hampshire
.. +Martha T. b: 1816 d: 1846
. 2   Loren S. Robinson b: 1840 d: February 22, 1842
*2nd Wife of [1] Joseph Sanborn Robinson:
.. +Angelina Towle b: June 04, 1816 d: July 17, 1784
. 2   Alfred I. Robinson b: 1849 d: 1849

That was the first Towle.  Now the 2nd connection: Durkee is the surname of Julia Tuller's mother.  I have found a Towle DNA connection. It connects to our female side.  


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Tuesday, March 18, 2025

 

Connecting Marsh to Robinson Tree; and Goldfoot Tree

 Nadene Goldfoot

I've discovered that I have many a Marsh on my tree.  I am living in an assisted living facility in Portland and my neighbor on my floor is a Marsh.  I've made her tree, and have not connected us, using LDS free website and google.  

I've checked in DNA-family tree DNA and have 3 matches;  2 with a male=my father;  and 1 with red, my mother.  

(blue) Aaron Everett Marsh, matching on chromosome #1=6.58cM;  #10 with 11.27cM;  #18 -9.62cM;  #21-7.21cM with 35cM as 4th cousin, 11cM the longest 

(blue)  Logan Marsh,  chromosome #3 =10.52cM   with  11cM as 4th cousin

(red) Jane Marsh, chromosomes  #4 =6.07cMs;  # 11=12.76, 19cMs  as 4th cousin


Tuesday, May 23, 2023

 

Our Irish Robinson Line of Origin of Ancient History; Comparison with Wales and Ireland As Grandpa Thought Wales Was Homeland

Nadene Goldfoot                                                  

The deer/stag/Buck:  represents peace and harmony; policy to those who read these shields  My Uncle Kenny did go deer hunting in the fall.  

The Big Y DNA test at FTDNA showed that our Robinson line had an Irish origin, belonging to the Fitzpatrick clan.  The big Y test showed:  R1b1b2 DYS 393=12 and 390=21.  I was getting a lot of Irish matches.  

Robinson means 'the son of Robert."  Variants of the Irish Robinson has been Robison, Robbins, Robyn, Robson, Robeson, and just plain Robin.  It's been found to be of Anglo-Norman descent and spread not only to Ireland but also Scotland and Wales in early times and found in many mediaeval manuscripts in these countries.  The DNA test shows we have many distant Irish cousins.  Our grandfather had told us the family (which one-his father Robinson or mother's side of Tuller had come from Wales.) It's what he remembered as he had run away from home when about 16. 

Osraige or Osraighe, Osraí, anglicized as Ossory, was a medieval Irish kingdom comprising what is now County Kilkenny and western County Laois, corresponding to the Diocese of Ossory. The home of the Osraige people, it existed from around the first century until the Norman invasion of Ireland in the 12th century.  This could be the origins of my mother's Robinsons.  

Ossory,  an ancient kingdom of Ireland,   won for itself a semi-independent position as a state within the kingdom of Leinster, probably in the 1st century AD. In the 9th century it was ruled by an able king, Cerball, who allied himself with the Norse invaders and figured in later centuries as an ancestor of some important families in Iceland. When surnames were introduced, the dynasts descended from him in Ireland were known as Mac Gillápadraig, a name transformed under Norman influence into Fitzpatrick. In the 11th century they contended for the kingship of Leinster but were soon overwhelmed by the south Leinster family of MacMurrough.

                      Milesius, father of the Irish Race

Legend records that the Fitzpatrick clan descended from Milesius, King of Spain.  Milesius planned to go to Ireland, but died before he could make it.   Scota, wife of Milesius, and their three sons did make it Ireland.  Eireamhon, son of Miesius and Scota, is thought to be the ancestor for the Fitzpatrick family.                      


Milesius, in his youth and in his father's life-time, went into Scythia, where he was kindly received by the king of that country, who gave him his daughter in marriage, and appointed him General of his forces. In this capacity Milesius defeated the king's enemies, gained much fame, and the love of all the king's subjects. His growing greatness and popularity excited against him the jealousy of the king; who, fearing the worst, resolved on privately dispatching Milesius our of the way, for, openly, he dare not attempt it. 

Admonished of the king's intentions in his regard, Milesius slew him; and thereupon quitted Scythia and retired into Egypt with a fleet of sixty sail. Pharaoh Nectonibus, then king of Egypt, being informed of his arrival and of his great valour, wisdom, and conduct in arms, made him General of all his forces against the king of Ethiopia then invading his country. (Pharaoh Nectonibus was born on date, at birth place, to Sobekemsaf II Sekhemrewadjkhaw Of Thebes,Egypt 1566 Bc-1559 Bc 7 Years 17 Dynasty and Living 17 Dynasty. Sobekemsaf was born on 1685 B.C..

Here, as in Scythia, Milesius was victorious; he forced the enemy to submit to the conqueror's own terms of peace. By these exploits Milesius found great favour with Pharaoh, who gave him, being then a widower, his daughter Scota in marriage; and kept him eight years afterwards in Egypt. 

During the sojourn of Milesius in Egypt, he employed the most ingenious and able persons among his people to be instructed in the several trades, arts, and sciences used in Egypt; in order to have them taught to the rest of his people on his return to Spain. 

At length Milesius took leave of his father-in-law, and steered towards Spain; where he arrived to the great joy and comfort of his people; who were much harassed by the rebellion of the natives and by the intrusion of other foreign nations that forced in after his father's death, and during his own long absence from Spain. With these and those he often met; and, in fifty-four battles, victoriously fought, he routed, destroyed, and totally extirpated them out of the country, which he settled in peace and quietness. So according to this legend, Ireland was connected to Spain and before that to Egypt and before that to Scythia.  

have always  thought of England's Sherwood forest and Robin Hood as the origin of this surname.   

All the possible Robinson men within New England at the time of Abiathar Smith Robinson (Frank's father) seemed to come from Massachusetts and when their genealogy was checked, originated in England.  Most went back to a John in the 1600s in England.  What happened to a distant Robert?  One traced back to a Robert born 1465 in Redriff, Surrey, England!   

Evidently the Irish Robinsons moved on and migrated to England.  Ireland during the period of 1536–1691 saw the first full conquest of the island by England and its colonization with mostly Protestant settlers from Great Britain. This would eventually establish two central themes in future Irish history: subordination of the country to London-based governments and sectarian animosity between Catholics and Protestants.

 "The period saw Irish society outside of the Pale transform from a locally driven, intertribal, clan-based Gaelic structure to a centralised, monarchical, state-governed society, similar to those found elsewhere in Europe. The period is bounded by the dates 1536, when King Henry VIII deposed the FitzGerald dynasty as Lords Deputies of Ireland (the new Kingdom of Ireland was declared by Henry VIII in 1541), and 1691, when the Catholic Jacobites surrendered at Limerick, thus confirming Protestant dominance in Ireland. This is sometimes called the early modern period."


Resource:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ireland_(1536%E2%80%931691)

https://www.irishsurnames.com/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?name=robinson&capname=Robinson&letter=r

http://www.oum.ox.ac.uk/settlers/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythia






 


 

Robinson Possible History Connecting Wales and Ireland

 Nadene Goldfoot


My grandfather, Frank Hugh Robinson of Portland, Oregon had mentioned that his people came from Wales.  In doing genealogy of the family since I've had a computer, I haven't run across any of my sources coming from anyplace other than England.  Where did he pick up such ideas as Wales?  He had left home at about the age of 16 as an angry teen.  His father, Abiathar Smith Robinson had not allowed him to save his horse on a Sunday that was out in the field with the bull.  Evidently his horse was killed by the bull and he left home.  That happened when they lived Wenona, Illinois.  Abiathar had been born in Vermont;  possibly Royalton or Tunbridge, Vermont.  

At 1:00 am just a few minutes ago as I lay in bed wide awake, I thought of that and realized I had never checked out Wales and Robinsons.  We had already done the Big Y DNA test with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) and Big Y Haplogroup Test, and discovered that we had Irish roots.  My cousin, Kenneth Arthur Robinson tested with the Big Y Test as:  R1b1b2  DYS 39k3=12 and 390-24.  

So I just typed in a few words and look what I discovered:

       Wales

"Wales and Ireland are not only geographically close – within 300 miles (482 km) of each other – but they share a special bond as Celtic siblings. Over the centuries, the two countries have inspired each other, helped each other, and provided opportunities for collaboration and growth. Here, we look at some of the bonds between the two countries.

                           Ireland

The languages of Wales and Ireland belong to the same family; they are both classed as living Celtic languages, along with Breton and Scottish Gaelic. In Wales and Ireland, it's normal for schoolchildren to be taught their native language as part of the curriculum. Figures from Ireland’s 2016 Census show that 1.7 per cent of the population speak Irish Gaelic every day. In Wales, it’s 16.3 per cent of the population speaking Welsh every day.                                       

Who were the Celts?   Celtic literary tradition begins with Old Irish texts around the 8th century AD. Elements of Celtic mythology are recorded in early Irish and early Welsh literature. Most written evidence of the early Celts comes from Greco-Roman writers, who often grouped the Celts as barbarian tribes. They followed an ancient Celtic religion overseen by druids.

The Celts were often in conflict with the Romans, such as in the Roman–Gallic wars, the Celtiberian Wars, the conquest of Gaul and conquest of Britain. By the 1st century AD, most Celtic territories had become part of the Roman Empire. By c. 500, due to Romanisation and the migration of Germanic tribes, Celtic culture had mostly become restricted to Ireland, western and northern Britain, and Brittany. Between the 5th and 8th centuries, the Celtic-speaking communities in these Atlantic regions emerged as a reasonably cohesive cultural entity. They had a common linguistic, religious and artistic heritage that distinguished them from surrounding cultures.

While both languages originate from the same source, the written and spoken forms are different. A Welsh speaker would find it hard to understand Irish Gaelic. The alphabets are slightly different too - the Irish alphabet uses 18 letters, while the Welsh alphabet has 29.

Despite these differences, both countries are committed to keeping their Celtic languages alive through educational policy, cultural events, literature, and music.

 Going back in history in 1282, the death of Llywelyn ap Gruffudd led to the conquest of the Principality of Wales by King Edward I of England; since then, the heir apparent to the English monarch has borne the title "Prince of Wales". The Welsh launched several revolts against English rule, the last significant one being that led by Owain Glyndŵr in the early 15th century. In the 16th century Henry VIII, himself of Welsh extraction as a great-grandson of Owen Tudor, passed the Laws in Wales Acts aiming to fully incorporate Wales into the Kingdom of England.

Stephen Oppenheimer (born 1947) is a British paediatrician, geneticist, and writer. He is a graduate of Balliol College, Oxford and an honorary fellow of the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine.  Oppenheimer trained in medicine at Oxford and London universities, qualifying in 1971. From 1972 he worked as a clinical paediatrician, mainly in MalaysiaNepal and Papua New Guinea. He carried out and published clinical research in the areas of nutrition, infectious disease (including malaria), and genetics, focussing on the interactions between nutrition, genetics and infection, in particular iron nutritionthalassaemia and malaria. From 1979 he moved into medical research and teaching, with positions at the Liverpool School of Tropical MedicineOxford University, a research centre in KilifiKenya, and the Universiti Sains Malaysia in Penang.

Stephen Oppenheimer, son of David Oppenheimer, is a medical geneticist at the University of Oxford, says the historians’ account is wrong in almost every detail. In Dr. Oppenheimer’s reconstruction of events, the principal ancestors of today’s British and Irish populations arrived from Spain about 16,000 years ago, speaking a language related to Basque.

The British Isles were unpopulated then, wiped clean of people by glaciers that had smothered northern Europe for about 4,000 years and forced the former inhabitants into southern refuges in Spain and Italy. When the climate warmed and the glaciers retreated, people moved back north.

In all, about three-quarters of the ancestors of today’s British and Irish populations arrived between 15,000 and 7,500 years ago, when rising sea levels finally divided Britain and Ireland from the Continent and from one another, Dr. Oppenheimer calculates in a new book, “The Origins of the British: A Genetic Detective Story” (Carroll & Graf, 2006).

As for subsequent invaders, Ireland received the fewest; the invaders’ DNA makes up about 12 percent of the Irish gene pool, Dr. Oppenheimer estimates, but it accounts for 20 percent of the gene pool in Wales, 30 percent in Scotland, and about one-third in eastern and southern England.

Dr. Oppenheimer said genes “have no bearing on cultural history.” There is no significant genetic difference between the people of Northern Ireland, yet they have been fighting with each other for 400 years, he said.

The earliest appearance of Robinson in the records is of a John Robynson who was listed in the Court Rolls of the Manor of Wakefied for 1324

Another early bearer of the surname was Katerina Robinson in 1540 (Sutterton, Lincolnshire). A carver and gilder named Wolf Robinson who lived in Boston, Lincolnshire, was listed in the 1893 UK Jewish Directory.

In 1881, farming was the most common occupation amongst Robinson family members, followed by  coal mining and agricultural labouring as the top 3 reported jobs worked by Robinson.

In 1891, the surname was widespread across England and Wales with 103,211 occurrences and a further 1,000 in Scotland. Lincolnshire was a top county with 3,965 occurrences in particular in the districts of Anderby and Alkborough. Further south, in the county of Kent, there were 1,798 occurrences.

Notable people

David Robinson OBE (1927-2017), A British journalist, author and teacher. He had a degree in Geography and an MSc in which he wrote a thesis on the coastal evolution of northeast Lincolnshire. David went on to become resident tutor of the University of Nottinghamshire for North Lincolnshire. He also served editorial roles with ‘Lincolnshire Life’ and ‘Natural World’ magazine. He was awarded an OBE for services to journalism and the community of Lincolnshire. In 2007 with a collection of papers on historical and geographical themes, titled “All Things Lincolnshire: An Anthology in Honour of David Robinson”.

SOURCES:

1881, 1891 Census

Dictionary of American Family Homes, P Hanks OUP 2003

Homes of Family Names in Great Britain, H.B. Guppy, London 1890

The Oxford Dictionary of Family Names in Britain and Ireland, P.Hanks, Coats, McClure OUP 2016

1860 Lower, Mark A Patronymica Britannica: a dictionary of the family names of the United Kingdom, London: J.R Smith. Public Domain

Resource:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEL7nCM5itg

https://www.wales.com/about/culture/links-between-wales-and-ireland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Wales

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/05/science/05cnd-brits.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Oppenheimer#:~:text=Stephen%20Oppenheimer%20(born%201947)%20is,Liverpool%20School%20of%20Tropical%20Medicine.

https://www.anthro.ox.ac.uk/people/professor-stephen-oppenheimer


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